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<blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 8099334" data-attributes="member: 7020832">Honestly, I don’t even disagree with you.&nbsp; When I created my PF2 character (only CRB had been published and I didn’t use an app), I did find it a bit longer than 5e, but it was definitely doable.My issues with character creation are as follows:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">High pace of new material means that players will end up drowning in small choices that take up time and add little (like what happened at the end of 4e);</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Many Ancestral feats were extremely small bonuses in limited circumstances (Elves can get a +1 against emotional effects);</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">I didn’t like Ability penalties on Ancestries;</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skill feats that were required to do things that as a DM, I would have allowed otherwise (like trying to intimidate someone simply by staring at them).</li>
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[QUOTE="FrozenNorth, post: 8099334, member: 7020832"] Honestly, I don’t even disagree with you. When I created my PF2 character (only CRB had been published and I didn’t use an app), I did find it a bit longer than 5e, but it was definitely doable. My issues with character creation are as follows: [LIST] [*]High pace of new material means that players will end up drowning in small choices that take up time and add little (like what happened at the end of 4e); [*]Many Ancestral feats were extremely small bonuses in limited circumstances (Elves can get a +1 against emotional effects); [*]I didn’t like Ability penalties on Ancestries; [*]Skill feats that were required to do things that as a DM, I would have allowed otherwise (like trying to intimidate someone simply by staring at them). [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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