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<blockquote data-quote="nevin" data-source="post: 8106952" data-attributes="member: 7024481">i wasn't trying to insult you I was pointing out that the game is full of arbitrary one off rules that aren't part of a holistic whole. Pathfinder is all about preventing roleplaying from getting in the way of the tactical combat game.&nbsp; &nbsp; I apologize if my post came across that way.&nbsp; You can't just read the rules and play the game, you have to read everything that affects your character, because there are unexplained ,limitations everywhere in the game, that have no logical game narrative.&nbsp; They just exist because someone wanted to stop somethin from happening and didn't trust DM's to handle it.&nbsp; Some games have a lot of limitations but create a narrative of why such things are there.&nbsp; Pathfinder just throws in random limitations everywhere.&nbsp; That's part of what causes people to complain about the complexity.&nbsp; All that arbitrary stuff means you can't just understand how the system works and go, you have to understand how all the individual nuts and bolts that apply to your character work.&nbsp; If pathfinder were a car you'd have an app to approve opening the gas tank so you could add gas.&nbsp; But only the amount of gas you put in the App first, just to make sure you don't spend more money than you should.&nbsp;&nbsp; Or your brakes would only work if you were looking straight ahead , and glancing to the passenger wouldn't be considered straight ahead.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then when you have wreck because the brakes didn't engage the Pathfinder forums would tell you to drive as intended.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nevin, post: 8106952, member: 7024481"] i wasn't trying to insult you I was pointing out that the game is full of arbitrary one off rules that aren't part of a holistic whole. Pathfinder is all about preventing roleplaying from getting in the way of the tactical combat game. I apologize if my post came across that way. You can't just read the rules and play the game, you have to read everything that affects your character, because there are unexplained ,limitations everywhere in the game, that have no logical game narrative. They just exist because someone wanted to stop somethin from happening and didn't trust DM's to handle it. Some games have a lot of limitations but create a narrative of why such things are there. Pathfinder just throws in random limitations everywhere. That's part of what causes people to complain about the complexity. All that arbitrary stuff means you can't just understand how the system works and go, you have to understand how all the individual nuts and bolts that apply to your character work. If pathfinder were a car you'd have an app to approve opening the gas tank so you could add gas. But only the amount of gas you put in the App first, just to make sure you don't spend more money than you should. Or your brakes would only work if you were looking straight ahead , and glancing to the passenger wouldn't be considered straight ahead. Then when you have wreck because the brakes didn't engage the Pathfinder forums would tell you to drive as intended. [/QUOTE]

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