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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8107130" data-attributes="member: 12731">There's a big point I have as-of yet not brought myself to add to the discussion. (The original one - is Pathfinder complex?) Just thinking about it is exhausting.But there are loads of feats with slightly different requirements and mechanics. Just look at <a href="https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=494" target="_blank">Twin Takedown</a> and <a href="https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=356" target="_blank">Double Slice</a>. (Part of why I've dreaded to make this argument is that it is such a rabbit hole to go down into, to find more examples of inconsistences and non-standardized rules concepts)The mere notion somebody (not you) could be calling PF2 simple or less complex than 3E or PF1 or 4E is mindboggling.PF2 is insanely complex.</blockquote>