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<blockquote data-quote="Gorgon Zee" data-source="post: 8119807" data-attributes="member: 75787"><p>Yeah, it plays pretty fast. Just finished off with our level 20 characters and maybe 25% slower than at low levels -- maybe? The single reaction is a big plus, especially since "ready" can only be used for single actions (so very few spells can be readied). It just flows very naturally. My character was a warpriest / champion / bard / mauler with 2 sets of different spell lists (20+ spells, some vancian, others not), 5 different reacts, 4 or so special actions and maybe 20 or so consumables, and I'd use a lot of them in a day's adventuring, but the system makes it pretty smooth to select between them. It seemed the same for others, as the player who would take 5 minutes on their D&D4E turn would take 20 seconds on their PF2 turn. </p><p></p><p>Combats are a bit slower than in Savage Worlds; 2-3x slower than Fate, BPR and GUMSHOE; slightly faster than Classic Deadlands; 2-3x faster than D&D3 and D&D4E. Haven't played any high level 5E to comparison against that (I got kinda bored of the minimal character choices mid-level) but from the little I ddi play, probably just a little slower.</p><p></p><p>Anyone have experience playing and running 5e and PF2 at mid-high levels (12+) with the same people who might be able to comment on the playing speeds?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gorgon Zee, post: 8119807, member: 75787"] Yeah, it plays pretty fast. Just finished off with our level 20 characters and maybe 25% slower than at low levels -- maybe? The single reaction is a big plus, especially since "ready" can only be used for single actions (so very few spells can be readied). It just flows very naturally. My character was a warpriest / champion / bard / mauler with 2 sets of different spell lists (20+ spells, some vancian, others not), 5 different reacts, 4 or so special actions and maybe 20 or so consumables, and I'd use a lot of them in a day's adventuring, but the system makes it pretty smooth to select between them. It seemed the same for others, as the player who would take 5 minutes on their D&D4E turn would take 20 seconds on their PF2 turn. Combats are a bit slower than in Savage Worlds; 2-3x slower than Fate, BPR and GUMSHOE; slightly faster than Classic Deadlands; 2-3x faster than D&D3 and D&D4E. Haven't played any high level 5E to comparison against that (I got kinda bored of the minimal character choices mid-level) but from the little I ddi play, probably just a little slower. Anyone have experience playing and running 5e and PF2 at mid-high levels (12+) with the same people who might be able to comment on the playing speeds? [/QUOTE]
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