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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8146710" data-attributes="member: 7026617"><p>Yeah, but I think its possible to derive trend-lines and see where some structures cause problems for some people and why, and extend that to other similar people. For example, I think the tendency to see feats as saying more than they are (as in, reading a feat that says you can do X specific thing in Y fashion as saying without it you can't do X specific thing at all without it, rather than the Y fashion being the point) is common enough that, though its a categorical error, its enough of a common one it bares engaging with. Similarly, some of the issues people had with the pre-errata Alchemist were spelled out enough even if they didn't bother me it was easy to understand why it bothers others. Another (albeit one I'm less sympathetic about) was the way people used to PF1e or D&D3e find arcanists, particularly wizards unsatisfying, or the way people who want to be able to play in a more casual way find PF2e's need to actually engage with the tactics undesirable.</p><p></p><p>But some of these are, essentially, complaining that a wrench isn't a screwdriver, and some are still based on blindspots. And some complaints you can find only make sense with an extremely specific and honestly quirky set of expectations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8146710, member: 7026617"] Yeah, but I think its possible to derive trend-lines and see where some structures cause problems for some people and why, and extend that to other similar people. For example, I think the tendency to see feats as saying more than they are (as in, reading a feat that says you can do X specific thing in Y fashion as saying without it you can't do X specific thing at all without it, rather than the Y fashion being the point) is common enough that, though its a categorical error, its enough of a common one it bares engaging with. Similarly, some of the issues people had with the pre-errata Alchemist were spelled out enough even if they didn't bother me it was easy to understand why it bothers others. Another (albeit one I'm less sympathetic about) was the way people used to PF1e or D&D3e find arcanists, particularly wizards unsatisfying, or the way people who want to be able to play in a more casual way find PF2e's need to actually engage with the tactics undesirable. But some of these are, essentially, complaining that a wrench isn't a screwdriver, and some are still based on blindspots. And some complaints you can find only make sense with an extremely specific and honestly quirky set of expectations. [/QUOTE]
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