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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8149909" data-attributes="member: 12731">As the thread starter, I would say it is about me revealing the emperor be naked. Meaning that for all the praise Pathfinder 2 is getting, it comes with huge baggage in the form of convoluted rules that clutter and slow the game for no good reason. (If the rules were better because they were complex it would have been one thing, but they're not. They're written with expectations that aren't borne out of actual gameplay, at least when you play official adventure paths. In a few cases, the complexity actively obscures the results to a degree lots of players still carry false beliefs about what the rules actually do, even now, a year after release!)I would therefore say that the thread was about getting people to realize and ideally acknowledge these often huge flaws and blunders.But of course as we approach 600 posts anyone who is determined to pretend these problem areas doesn't exist won't suddenly give me credit for spotting them, so I guess that is why we're now topic drifting.That's my two cents, at least.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8149909, member: 12731"] As the thread starter, I would say it is about me revealing the emperor be naked. Meaning that for all the praise Pathfinder 2 is getting, it comes with huge baggage in the form of convoluted rules that clutter and slow the game for no good reason. (If the rules were better because they were complex it would have been one thing, but they're not. They're written with expectations that aren't borne out of actual gameplay, at least when you play official adventure paths. In a few cases, the complexity actively obscures the results to a degree lots of players still carry false beliefs about what the rules actually do, even now, a year after release!) I would therefore say that the thread was about getting people to realize and ideally acknowledge these often huge flaws and blunders. But of course as we approach 600 posts anyone who is determined to pretend these problem areas doesn't exist won't suddenly give me credit for spotting them, so I guess that is why we're now topic drifting. That's my two cents, at least. [/QUOTE]

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