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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8153737" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>No it isn't. It's unscientific guesswork.</p><p></p><p>One theory is based on the particulars of the edition, one isn't. </p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you don't get to characterize anecdotes as "data in the field". </p><p></p><p>It's a huge stretch to interpret people's experiences as "moderate encounters are noticeably easier on the players in AoE than in AoA or EC", which is what you are effectively saying.</p><p></p><p>It could just as well be that you're listening to a particular voice which went into the first AP as naive beginners but into the third AP as hardened veterans. That's just more useless speculation of course, but my point that such a "data point" would be irrelevant to assess the veracity of my main claim "a 5E player new to PF2 will have a quite rude awakening, and that this is probably caused by the inflexible CRB guidelines".</p><p></p><p>So far you haven't taken a single step closer to actually discussing the specifics of Pathfinder 2. It appears just as likely you have actually analyzed the game as just putting your finger up in the air.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I see no distinct difference in the way encounters are built. </p><p></p><p>I could ask you to show what you're basing this on, but since I know you are just grasping random voices from the wind, I won't.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll discuss that with them, not you, thank you very much.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No you haven't. You keep repeating you have explained, but I keep seeing nothing but hopes and guesses.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I certainly don't need your acceptance. </p><p></p><p>I have provided observations regarding the fundamental nature of the encounter guidelines, specifically how they do not make any special provisions for high or low levels at all despite everything suggesting that the relative power balance between heroes and monsters not staying the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Annoying? Should your efforts only be a simple attempt to troll me, then <em>please</em> do say so, and I'll <em>gladly</em> give you the last word! At the moment I am assuming your continued participation is an indication that you remain willing to be convinced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8153737, member: 12731"] No it isn't. It's unscientific guesswork. One theory is based on the particulars of the edition, one isn't. No, you don't get to characterize anecdotes as "data in the field". It's a huge stretch to interpret people's experiences as "moderate encounters are noticeably easier on the players in AoE than in AoA or EC", which is what you are effectively saying. It could just as well be that you're listening to a particular voice which went into the first AP as naive beginners but into the third AP as hardened veterans. That's just more useless speculation of course, but my point that such a "data point" would be irrelevant to assess the veracity of my main claim "a 5E player new to PF2 will have a quite rude awakening, and that this is probably caused by the inflexible CRB guidelines". So far you haven't taken a single step closer to actually discussing the specifics of Pathfinder 2. It appears just as likely you have actually analyzed the game as just putting your finger up in the air. I see no distinct difference in the way encounters are built. I could ask you to show what you're basing this on, but since I know you are just grasping random voices from the wind, I won't. I'll discuss that with them, not you, thank you very much. No you haven't. You keep repeating you have explained, but I keep seeing nothing but hopes and guesses. I certainly don't need your acceptance. I have provided observations regarding the fundamental nature of the encounter guidelines, specifically how they do not make any special provisions for high or low levels at all despite everything suggesting that the relative power balance between heroes and monsters not staying the same. Annoying? Should your efforts only be a simple attempt to troll me, then [I]please[/I] do say so, and I'll [I]gladly[/I] give you the last word! At the moment I am assuming your continued participation is an indication that you remain willing to be convinced. [/QUOTE]
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