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<blockquote data-quote="Mister Doug" data-source="post: 4316512" data-attributes="member: 66623">I'm baffled when this stopped being a generally descriptive trait of any form of D&amp;D. D&amp;D and AD&amp;D were criticized for this when I was but a wee gamer (often by players of more arcane games like C&amp;S, RQ, or eventually GURPS, Ars Magica, Storyteller, etc.), and a criticism of 3.x (by Storyteller system players, indie gamers, etc.&nbsp; as well as Old Timers who pointed out both 3.x's focus on power through feats, prestige classes, feats, etc. and its focus on the 'return to the dungeon' ideal.)A heavy, nearly exclusive, combat focus has been a central feature of D&amp;D since... well, D&amp;D. This seems a strange complaint for the game itself. The fact that heavy roleplay campaigns happen all the time in D&amp;D seems to occur due to factors other than the rules as written.Wanting to seem more options is not a strange complaint, but that seems more an issue of being concerned that D&amp;D hasn't changed enough rather than that it changed too much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mister Doug, post: 4316512, member: 66623"] I'm baffled when this stopped being a generally descriptive trait of any form of D&D. D&D and AD&D were criticized for this when I was but a wee gamer (often by players of more arcane games like C&S, RQ, or eventually GURPS, Ars Magica, Storyteller, etc.), and a criticism of 3.x (by Storyteller system players, indie gamers, etc. as well as Old Timers who pointed out both 3.x's focus on power through feats, prestige classes, feats, etc. and its focus on the 'return to the dungeon' ideal.) A heavy, nearly exclusive, combat focus has been a central feature of D&D since... well, D&D. This seems a strange complaint for the game itself. The fact that heavy roleplay campaigns happen all the time in D&D seems to occur due to factors other than the rules as written. Wanting to seem more options is not a strange complaint, but that seems more an issue of being concerned that D&D hasn't changed enough rather than that it changed too much. [/QUOTE]

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