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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9593605" data-attributes="member: 23751">Sure, but that training comes with experience, which the newly minted cleric and warlock get on the job.  For the initial level, the power is pretty much granted by supernatural entitites.They don't.  They've been practicing with weapons since before they became 1st level, so by the time they hit 5th level, they've been learning how to be a bit better and faster with each level gained.  That last day is when things click and they crest their ability with weapons.See the fighter above.  Going from absolutely nothing to wizard with no training, practice or even prior interest is the problem.  Not experienced gained with prior levels culminating in a new ability.</blockquote>