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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9602067" data-attributes="member: 29398">By &quot;NPC&quot; here I mean any creature in the setting of a PC-playable species that is not currently being played by a player.&nbsp; Contrast this with a &quot;Monster&quot;, which is any creature-undead-construct in the setting that cannot be played as a PC.First off, I don't mecessarily see &quot;mother may I&quot; as a bad thing.Second, while our lot have historically loved to argue about just about anything under the sun illusions have generated remarkably few of those arguments.&nbsp; That said, as both player and DM I'm in favour of allowing illusions to do far more than 5e lets them, so maybe that helps.Stripping out a whole bunch of spells is a different issue IMO than what the remaining spells would be allowed to do.&nbsp; I'm not sure I'd lose 90% of them but there's certainly room to prune maybe 25%, particularly on the Cleric side.But the uses and applications of spells and their effects shouldn't be so tightly proscribed as to squash any hope of caster players getting creative with them.And that's fair too.&nbsp; Clarity of rules and rulings is important.&nbsp; The problem is, achieving that clarity while leaving room for improvisation sometimes takes a lot of word count, about which both readers and editors complain.And they should include the obvious what-if rulings.&nbsp; Magic Missile as written can only target a creature, for example, but what happens if you shoot one at a wall or an illusion or just straight up into the air?&nbsp; Does it have a visible effect, for example, and if so can shooting one into the air act as a signal, or distress flare? (for me, that would be a perfectly acceptable use of the spell!)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9602067, member: 29398"] By "NPC" here I mean any creature in the setting [I]of a PC-playable species[/I] that is not currently being played by a player. Contrast this with a "Monster", which is any creature-undead-construct in the setting that cannot be played as a PC. First off, I don't mecessarily see "mother may I" as a bad thing. Second, while our lot have historically loved to argue about just about anything under the sun illusions have generated remarkably few of those arguments. That said, as both player and DM I'm in favour of allowing illusions to do far more than 5e lets them, so maybe that helps. Stripping out a whole bunch of spells is a different issue IMO than what the remaining spells would be allowed to do. I'm not sure I'd lose 90% of them but there's certainly room to prune maybe 25%, particularly on the Cleric side. But the uses and applications of spells and their effects shouldn't be so tightly proscribed as to squash any hope of caster players getting creative with them. And that's fair too. Clarity of rules and rulings is important. The problem is, achieving that clarity while leaving room for improvisation sometimes takes a lot of word count, about which both readers and editors complain. And they should include the obvious what-if rulings. [I]Magic Missile[/I] as written can only target a creature, for example, but what happens if you shoot one at a wall or an illusion or just straight up into the air? Does it have a visible effect, for example, and if so can shooting one into the air act as a signal, or distress flare? (for me, that would be a perfectly acceptable use of the spell!) [/QUOTE]

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