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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9620661" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>^ Pretty much this. And, to be honest, I'm probably guilty here too. Maybe not recently, but, yeah, I've probably done something like that too. In any case though, I have enough experience with players coming to my table who wouldn't touch illusion magic with a ten foot pole most of the time.</p><p></p><p>It was actually quite refreshing in a recent session with a fairly D&D newbie to see him use Minor Illusion to defuse a potential combat. We were trying to find a missing little girl who had been missing for years. Turned out she was taken in by some goblins who were actually treating her fairly well. ((Think Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs) We wanted to communicate that we had come from her mother, so, the party Sorcerer tried using Minor Illusion to mimic her voice. But, the DM immediately ruled that it couldn't reproduce intelligible speach. ((And, right there, we see the DM automatically defaulting to limiting the spell)) So, the player simply reproduced an image of the mother instead. Thus the encounter was resolved without violence. </p><p></p><p>But, again, right there, you have the DM deliberately interpreting the spell in as limiting fashion as possible. You can make it sound like someone's voice, but, you couldn't actually make it talk. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p>It's pretty much par for the course IME.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9620661, member: 22779"] ^ Pretty much this. And, to be honest, I'm probably guilty here too. Maybe not recently, but, yeah, I've probably done something like that too. In any case though, I have enough experience with players coming to my table who wouldn't touch illusion magic with a ten foot pole most of the time. It was actually quite refreshing in a recent session with a fairly D&D newbie to see him use Minor Illusion to defuse a potential combat. We were trying to find a missing little girl who had been missing for years. Turned out she was taken in by some goblins who were actually treating her fairly well. ((Think Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs) We wanted to communicate that we had come from her mother, so, the party Sorcerer tried using Minor Illusion to mimic her voice. But, the DM immediately ruled that it couldn't reproduce intelligible speach. ((And, right there, we see the DM automatically defaulting to limiting the spell)) So, the player simply reproduced an image of the mother instead. Thus the encounter was resolved without violence. But, again, right there, you have the DM deliberately interpreting the spell in as limiting fashion as possible. You can make it sound like someone's voice, but, you couldn't actually make it talk. :erm: It's pretty much par for the course IME. [/QUOTE]
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