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<blockquote data-quote="EnglishLanguage" data-source="post: 6287931" data-attributes="member: 6774827">Competent costs rarely, if ever, keep casters in check because costless ones are covered by component pouches and/or Eschew Materials(and forcing the Wizard to keep track of them/gather them stalls the game and still makes the game revolve around the party making sure the Wizard can cast the spells that they need to survive, at best stalling the game out and at worst making the game EVEN MORE about the Wizard than before).&nbsp; @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6681948" target="_blank">N'raac</a> - Pointing out that spells are the only real class feature Wizards have(which isn't true anymore in Pathfinder with the addition of a number of hilariously overpowered School Abilities) doesn't really say a whole lot when the description for that one feature might as well read:&quot;Does anything and everything you can think of.&quot;Also, in your example, it's still pretty easy to point out who saved the day. The Fighter and Rogue are just holding the bad guys off until the Wizard and Cleric win the encounter(which he'd be smart to do over buffing the Rogue and Fighter. Even magic-immune enemies are hilariously weak to the right spells), especially when the Fighter and Rogue are doing something that could be equally accomplished by casting Summon Monster X(which are actually better because CR, terrible guide it is, isn't made to account or them, they don't require a share of EXP and loot, and they don't need to be healed if/when they die ater the fight's over).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EnglishLanguage, post: 6287931, member: 6774827"] Competent costs rarely, if ever, keep casters in check because costless ones are covered by component pouches and/or Eschew Materials(and forcing the Wizard to keep track of them/gather them stalls the game and still makes the game revolve around the party making sure the Wizard can cast the spells that they need to survive, at best stalling the game out and at worst making the game EVEN MORE about the Wizard than before). @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6681948"]N'raac[/URL][/U][/B][/I] - Pointing out that spells are the only real class feature Wizards have(which isn't true anymore in Pathfinder with the addition of a number of hilariously overpowered School Abilities) doesn't really say a whole lot when the description for that one feature might as well read:"Does anything and everything you can think of." Also, in your example, it's still pretty easy to point out who saved the day. The Fighter and Rogue are just holding the bad guys off until the Wizard and Cleric win the encounter(which he'd be smart to do over buffing the Rogue and Fighter. Even magic-immune enemies are hilariously weak to the right spells), especially when the Fighter and Rogue are doing something that could be equally accomplished by casting Summon Monster X(which are actually better because CR, terrible guide it is, isn't made to account or them, they don't require a share of EXP and loot, and they don't need to be healed if/when they die ater the fight's over). [/QUOTE]

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