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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 3813247" data-attributes="member: 1288"><p>Sorry, Jeff, I gotta go with Smurfy on this one. I think any interpretation other than the one he espouses is simply inaccurate.</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to repeat the arguments about whether the sentence should be taken in or out of context with the preceding sentence. That's been done. Instead, I'll ask this:</p><p></p><p>If your interpretation is correct, what purpose does the first sentence serve <em>at all</em>? Why is it there?</p><p></p><p>It's not for flavor, because--if your interpretation is correct--that's not how the spell works. It's not to describe the chart, because the chart already specifies which abilities it adds to; there's no need for further elaboration.</p><p></p><p>The only way the sentence "Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores depend partly on the new body" has <em>any purpose at all</em> is if it defines the sentence that follows it.</p><p></p><p>I know you've argued that game designers don't always make their points clearly, and that's sometimes true. But surely you don't think they make a habit of throwing in random sentences that have <em>no bearing whatsoever</em> on the topic?</p><p></p><p>(In addition, the fact that the table only adjusts physical stats certainly implies that the spell has no impact on mental stats. After all, a "real" orc has mental penalties, but not one who's been reincarnated. It makes no mechanical sense for the spell to remove mental adjustments, but not then add mental adjustments.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 3813247, member: 1288"] Sorry, Jeff, I gotta go with Smurfy on this one. I think any interpretation other than the one he espouses is simply inaccurate. I'm not going to repeat the arguments about whether the sentence should be taken in or out of context with the preceding sentence. That's been done. Instead, I'll ask this: If your interpretation is correct, what purpose does the first sentence serve [i]at all[/i]? Why is it there? It's not for flavor, because--if your interpretation is correct--that's not how the spell works. It's not to describe the chart, because the chart already specifies which abilities it adds to; there's no need for further elaboration. The only way the sentence "Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores depend partly on the new body" has [i]any purpose at all[/i] is if it defines the sentence that follows it. I know you've argued that game designers don't always make their points clearly, and that's sometimes true. But surely you don't think they make a habit of throwing in random sentences that have [i]no bearing whatsoever[/i] on the topic? (In addition, the fact that the table only adjusts physical stats certainly implies that the spell has no impact on mental stats. After all, a "real" orc has mental penalties, but not one who's been reincarnated. It makes no mechanical sense for the spell to remove mental adjustments, but not then add mental adjustments.) [/QUOTE]
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