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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 3813472" data-attributes="member: 5122">Is there any particular reason you felt the need to single me out?&nbsp; Hypersmurf, for example, is absolutely famous for &quot;epic arguments&quot; on rules minutiae.&nbsp; (And he usually sides on the side of RAW.&nbsp; This particular thread is an interesting aberration.&nbsp; Interesting to me, anyway.)Your fairy tale, BTW, works perfectly well if the grey elf loses that bonus to Intelligence (as reincarnate by RAW says he does).&nbsp; If you need a rationale (for some reason), ask yourself if a bear brain has the same size or structure as an elf brain.&nbsp; Personally, I'm fine with &quot;it's magic.&quot;It's true that in most cases of shapechanging in D&amp;D, mental stats don't change.&nbsp; It's also true that in most cases of shapechanging in D&amp;D, that fact is explicit in the rules description.&nbsp; Thus the ambiguity in interpretation of reincarnate ... and given ambiguity, ignoring the actual words as written is a house rule.&nbsp; A fairly reasonable house rule, but still a house rule.I don't believe either side is doing that.&nbsp; Hypersmurf believes he's following the writer's intent.&nbsp; I'm making no concrete judgments about the writer's intent ... I'm just pointing out -- over and over and over -- what was actually written.Oh, and as an aside, a grey elf probably can't be reincarnated as a bear.&nbsp; Note this text: &quot;For a humanoid creature, the new incarnation is determined using the following table. For nonhumanoid creatures, a similar table of creatures of the same type should be created.&quot;&nbsp; That very strongly implies that a creature is always reincarnated as the same Type.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeff Wilder, post: 3813472, member: 5122"] Is there any particular reason you felt the need to single me out? Hypersmurf, for example, is absolutely famous for "epic arguments" on rules minutiae. (And he usually sides on the side of RAW. This particular thread is an interesting aberration. Interesting to me, anyway.) Your fairy tale, BTW, works perfectly well if the grey elf loses that bonus to Intelligence (as [i]reincarnate[/i] by RAW says he does). If you need a rationale (for some reason), ask yourself if a bear brain has the same size or structure as an elf brain. Personally, I'm fine with "it's magic." It's true that in most cases of shapechanging in D&D, mental stats don't change. It's also true that in most cases of shapechanging in D&D, that fact is [i]explicit[/i] in the rules description. Thus the ambiguity in interpretation of [i]reincarnate[/i] ... and given ambiguity, ignoring the [i]actual words as written[/i] is a house rule. A fairly reasonable house rule, but still a house rule. I don't believe either side is doing that. Hypersmurf believes he's following the writer's intent. I'm making no concrete judgments about the writer's intent ... I'm just pointing out -- over and over and over -- what was actually [i]written[/i]. Oh, and as an aside, a grey elf probably can't be reincarnated as a bear. Note this text: "For a humanoid creature, the new incarnation is determined using the following table. For nonhumanoid creatures, a similar table of creatures of the same type should be created." That very strongly implies that a creature is always reincarnated as the same Type. [/QUOTE]

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