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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 879567" data-attributes="member: 6239">I agree with Shard that reincarnate as written is a crap-shoot and that is why it specifically doesn't have an ECL modifier.&nbsp; Pixie is great, but not if you were a half-ogre barbarian.Twice in my game this spell has been used on long running characters.&nbsp; One came back as a centaur, and it caused him no end of trouble, people not trusting the &quot;strange natury guy&quot;, trying to enter small spaces, and forget about climbing.&nbsp; He dumped the character because it wasn't fun.The other character was a sniper rogue.&nbsp; He came back as a leopard.&nbsp; Pounce plus sneak attack plus improved sneak attack (d8s) is a scary sight to behold.&nbsp; He has gotten the Monster of Legend template, so he is even nastier.&nbsp; I didn't enforce any ECL for the reincarnate because he lost the sniper ability he had built up.&nbsp; But he is arguably more effective as a lepard.My advice: if you like chaos, just leave the spell.&nbsp; If you are worried about imbalance in the party, re-write the table to exclude ECL races (past 1 or so).&nbsp; In either event, the person shouldn't have to deal with buying off a mostly useless ECL (half ogre to pixie) just to come back from the dead.&nbsp; It wasn't the players choice to be that race.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 879567, member: 6239"] I agree with Shard that reincarnate as written is a crap-shoot and that is why it specifically doesn't have an ECL modifier. Pixie is great, but not if you were a half-ogre barbarian. Twice in my game this spell has been used on long running characters. One came back as a centaur, and it caused him no end of trouble, people not trusting the "strange natury guy", trying to enter small spaces, and forget about climbing. He dumped the character because it wasn't fun. The other character was a sniper rogue. He came back as a leopard. Pounce plus sneak attack plus improved sneak attack (d8s) is a scary sight to behold. He has gotten the Monster of Legend template, so he is even nastier. I didn't enforce any ECL for the reincarnate because he lost the sniper ability he had built up. But he is arguably more effective as a lepard. My advice: if you like chaos, just leave the spell. If you are worried about imbalance in the party, re-write the table to exclude ECL races (past 1 or so). In either event, the person shouldn't have to deal with buying off a mostly useless ECL (half ogre to pixie) just to come back from the dead. It wasn't the players choice to be that race. [/QUOTE]

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