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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 2774839" data-attributes="member: 5777">I only said that if you apply it to one you should apply it to the other, for the exact same reasons either way. Consistancy.After all, it is possible to be walking around in the hobgoblin form permanently through several different means:1) born that way and havent had anything change it yet2) reincarnated that way and havent had anything change it yet3) polymorphed any object into that form with permanent duration and havent had anything change it yetand more..In all of these you get the stat boosts and out of the three I think the one that is least likely to deserve the LA is the first.. and yet it is the one that does by the rules while the others do not (because the rules are silent on the issue, one could argue that the silence means the other way, but then again both of the last two should be treated the same.. and then moving from there polymorph should be worked similarly, even if it is of a shorter duration.. for that fight you are in that form and so inherantly have those bonuses).All in all, I think it'd be easiest if the whole LA system was redone and the polymorph mechanics were redone.. it would solve many of the problems at their base rather than working on symptoms.So no, I understand the LA just fine. But tell me, if a character is permanently polymorphed into a creature with a +30 LA (just using an extreme for the sake of the arguement) why should they not be stuck with it? But then, they probably arent getting the full benefit, so why not some fraction of it? Why none in one case and all in another even when they have exactly the same benefits either way?Inconsistancy is bad, especially in a case such as this, since if it is done with that inconsistancy it is a 'stupid rules whole' at that point either way.. whether to the benefit or detriment of the player.</blockquote>

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