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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 4620128" data-attributes="member: 12731">I don't see why you should change the rules to "coax" the Ranger into shorter distances. The range of bows are already ludicrously short as it is.Instead, it might not be that the player isn't uninterested in helping out, it might just be that he cannot free himself of "realism"-related presumptions. In this case, perhaps everyone (he, you, all the players) is helped by him playing a Dwarf Fighter instead... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />In preparation of this, let the players - out of character - discuss the D&D fact any PC needs to provide more than offensive power to the party, he or she must provide defensive power too, which in 4E means your healing surges. And that this applies equally to melee and ranged character archetypes. In other words, tell your players they should not choose a ranged character unless they accept that the "realism" of archers staying out of range must be tossed by the wayside.Make sure everybody understands that this is a fundamental shift compared to other rpgs, including 3E. There, sure the Ranger had his hit points, but it was easy to not waste any healing on him. In 4E, one fifth of that healing is built into each character. Thus, each PC must soak hits or this valuable resource is wasted.In game, let the other PCs conclude they can't have a member not doing his share of the job, and dump him. (Or have him killed, or lost in the woods, or whatever.) Then introduce the new character.My point here is that nerfing the rules for ranged combat (even more) you might fix the wrong problem, you might fix what wasn't broken, and you might not fix the real issue.Any archer worth his salt should feel good about being "ambushed" by lurkers and artillery. That at least means he's doing his job. Here, we're discussing the problem that arises when the monsters can't get to the archer because the archer doesn't actively allow them to.Good luck! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></blockquote>

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