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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 4919874" data-attributes="member: 5890">Aren't daily spells effectively vancian magic?But regardless: you say you're trying to not impact in-combat balance. Frankly, that was never really the problem with pre 4e casters. It was the fact that out of combat, the wizard did just about everything, and everyone else sat on their skills and got bored.If your players aren't using rituals, then they're obviously only solving problems that can be solved through other means (planning, roleplay or skill use).Do you really want to replace planning, roleplay and skill use with "we get the wizard to cast solve problem x"?That said, if you wish to encourage ritual use, hand out ritual components as treasure instead of, say, gold, so players don't feel like they're wasting combat resources on non-combat rituals.</blockquote>