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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4170785" data-attributes="member: 54846">So, a general question.I've noticed that to some extent, a game needs some sort of monster or race that is Irredeemably Evil. The kind of creature that you can feel no qualms about putting to the sword. This even includes its young. Because if you add too many shades of gray, the game becomes "We can't attack anyone because we don't know if we're justified!" But in many a game, people like kicking in doors and killing bad guys. To aid that, sometimes you  need to let the players breathe and go "Okay, we DON'T need to ask questions about THOSE guys, we can DESTROY them." Sort've like fighting Nazis. They're nazis, so it's okay.Now, in standard D&D, demons and undead fill this hole. But, demons and undead can't always fill the niche you want. So what about a Race of some Humanoid? Some low CR grunt race. Many people seem to put Orc as this; they're not just savage and brutish, but they're pure black hearted with no souls. Is this a Cliche, Trope, Element of Fantasy, or what?What if you have an explanation for it? Like with LotR how Orcs are corrupted elves. That's an Explanation as to WHY this thing here is evil and even if you take it home and nurture it, it'll still eat you. (Like the old fable of the Scorpion and the frog). Does that change what it is?</blockquote>