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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8054382" data-attributes="member: 6901101"><p>Touche. You are right about the slaadi. I personally find their alignment ridiculous, but the MM lists them as CN. Yet all one has to do is read the passage on slaadi and see that they read chaotic evil. Every word used to describe them: "doom," "horrific," dragooning mobs," "horrors" among others. It even uses the word, "evil." And let's not forget, the slaadi wiped out every single enclave of other creatures in Limbo. If that doesn't make them evil, then I don't now what constitutes evil. I mean if they are not chaotic evil, then what is? Certainly not a jackalwere, which is not nearly as evil as a slaad.</p><p></p><p>But you are correct. If that is their definition of CN, then I am wrong. </p><p></p><p>As far as real life examples, much of those are compromises based on the times at hand. It is not a singularly personal choice. The alignment of a character is a personal choice. You are correct, CN is as crazy and evil as you say it is. It is selfish and individualistic. But history was not ruled by a singular person with a singular interest, which is what alignment implies. They have to compromise to make group efforts work. I mean I may really care about honesty, but when I am buying a car and know they are bending the truth and/or lying, I don't force them to be truthful or leave. No, I need a car, so I work with them. (Thank god I am not a slaadi, because then I would just kill them and lay my eggs in them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)</p><p></p><p>But again. You are correct. It seems I have read it incorrectly. Thank you for helping me to understand it. It is appreciated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 8054382, member: 6901101"] Touche. You are right about the slaadi. I personally find their alignment ridiculous, but the MM lists them as CN. Yet all one has to do is read the passage on slaadi and see that they read chaotic evil. Every word used to describe them: "doom," "horrific," dragooning mobs," "horrors" among others. It even uses the word, "evil." And let's not forget, the slaadi wiped out every single enclave of other creatures in Limbo. If that doesn't make them evil, then I don't now what constitutes evil. I mean if they are not chaotic evil, then what is? Certainly not a jackalwere, which is not nearly as evil as a slaad. But you are correct. If that is their definition of CN, then I am wrong. As far as real life examples, much of those are compromises based on the times at hand. It is not a singularly personal choice. The alignment of a character is a personal choice. You are correct, CN is as crazy and evil as you say it is. It is selfish and individualistic. But history was not ruled by a singular person with a singular interest, which is what alignment implies. They have to compromise to make group efforts work. I mean I may really care about honesty, but when I am buying a car and know they are bending the truth and/or lying, I don't force them to be truthful or leave. No, I need a car, so I work with them. (Thank god I am not a slaadi, because then I would just kill them and lay my eggs in them. ;)) But again. You are correct. It seems I have read it incorrectly. Thank you for helping me to understand it. It is appreciated. [/QUOTE]
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