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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WonkaMania" data-source="post: 831452" data-attributes="member: 11035">Well, now that's just damn good DM advice that I can't argue with <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Here's the reason that this whole Idea came about. I was reading over the Sunless Citadel (the only published adventure I own) just for some comparison value to what I've already run/how I'm running things. My campaign is based highly on roleplaying, as I believe a good campaign should be half roleplaying/half killing things, and I've accomplished that well so far. The PC's have gained a fair amount of XP from roleplaying things out so well! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> As you are probably aware, there is a Wyrmling White Dragon in the Sunless Citadel. I've read over quite a few of the Story Hours' where people used the SC, and alot of people have killed the Dragon with not much of a problem. I thought, "man, that would be sooo cool to have my PC's find/fight and kill a Dragon!" The only problem is that white doesn't fit the southern, warm mountain region that they are in.  The other thing is, my PC's tend to chew apart things I throw at them! It's hard to account for the fact that since there is 6 of them, their effective party lvl is one higher then they are. I threw 3 CR 1's (3 hungry wolves) at them at first lvl, it was pathetic how quickly they dispatched of them! The wolves never even *hit* any of them. I have to throw 2 or 3 monsters that are of 1 CR higher then them against them for it to be a good fight. This is where I was thinking a Dragon could come in handy for a fun and challenging fight!  I think, that if it happens at all, I would make it a Wyrmling. After thinking about it some more, and from your posts Mark, I think that the Very Young would be too tough for them. However, I think that the Wyrmling could still work. I would think it would use it's breath attack to hit as many of them as it could, and then get down there on the ground (maybe hover) so that it could attack them, spreading it's attacks over whoever was around it. (I find it hard to believe the Dragon could center *all* of it's attacks on one person.. I'm speaking in particular about the "wing" attacks, I think those would just be directed to whoever was on it's sides. I think it would be funny for a Dragon to bit at whoever was in front of it, swipe at it twice, turn to one side and bash it with it's wing, then turn to the other side and bash it with it's other wing. That's just a bit absurd.. hehe) While in melee it would just breath straight-forward and try to get 2 PC's in it's breath. How does that sound? Does that sound like it would be playing a Dragon very stupidly? Would that be a good challenge? Mark, I guess what I'm trying to understand is, are you saying that my party of 6 should face a Dragon that is only lower CR, or equal CR to the party? You seem to feel pretty strongly that even the CR 3 Wyrmling will be too tough for a party of 6- 2nd lvl chars?</blockquote>

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