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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5652990" data-attributes="member: 996">To turn that around, you could say that later controller at-wills were overpowered.If you compare the Wizard PH1 at-wills to the other at wills in the PH1, at publication, the wizard had:The only range 20 at-will in the game.The only area at-wills in the game.The only close at-wills in the game.The only at will in the game that /slowed/.The only at will in the game that created a zone.The only at-will in the game that did auto-damage.The only at-will in the game that could push more than 1.I played a campaign that got through 10 levels before PH2 came out, and the wizard was absolutely a stand-out character.  Where I'll agree is that the wizard's Dailies were extremely good, and the Encounters were not as impressive as the dailies (even given the usual encounter vs daily gulf).  The 'problem' faced by the wizard was two-fold:1) There was an expectation that it be as overwhelmingly broken as it was in earlier eds, and that expectation, obviously, was never met (though the Mage potentially gets closer with each new school).2) It's role-support was concentrated in it's powers, instead of being a feature.  Wizard at-wills, in particular, are crazy-powerful compared to other classes (even more so with later powers), but, if you were to fold their marking(and'punishmen') and extra-damage mechanics and the like into other classes' at-wills, they'd be a lot closer.</blockquote>

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