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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 5795007" data-attributes="member: 53980">I don't think the idea is to force people to use goblinoids for 6 levels. That's why you have variety in the MM. Additionally, that seems more an issue for the DMG (providing advice to DMs about variety in a campaign).However, there's a definite advantage to being able to use orcs in adventures for a wide range of levels. I like the idea that I, as a DM, might be able to use goblins against a level 6 party (instead of being shoehorned into using ogres because goblins are too low level, or being forced through the rigmarole of adding a bunch of class levels to the goblins and diluting their &quot;goblinishness&quot;). I'd be a little surprised if goblins and orcs will be a serious threat at epic levels (aside from perhaps a full-blown army of them), but widening the range is a good design goal, IMO. I'd like to minimize the number of times that I have to go back to the drawing board with an idea for an adventure, just because the creature I wanted to feature is the wrong level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 5795007, member: 53980"] I don't think the idea is to force people to use goblinoids for 6 levels. That's why you have variety in the MM. Additionally, that seems more an issue for the DMG (providing advice to DMs about variety in a campaign). However, there's a definite advantage to being able to use orcs in adventures for a wide range of levels. I like the idea that I, as a DM, might be able to use goblins against a level 6 party (instead of being shoehorned into using ogres because goblins are too low level, or being forced through the rigmarole of adding a bunch of class levels to the goblins and diluting their "goblinishness"). I'd be a little surprised if goblins and orcs will be a serious threat at epic levels (aside from perhaps a full-blown army of them), but widening the range is a good design goal, IMO. I'd like to minimize the number of times that I have to go back to the drawing board with an idea for an adventure, just because the creature I wanted to feature is the wrong level. [/QUOTE]

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