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<blockquote data-quote="eris404" data-source="post: 2709821" data-attributes="member: 5338"><p>Hey, thanks for the suggestions. Here some things I was thinking about:</p><p></p><p>BAB and armor/weapon proficiencies: The remembrancers are only OK at combat; in the books, they do carry swords (from the description, I would have to say longswords), but they aren't necessarily the strongest fighters, just better fighters than mages. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> They also wore armor (including this neat magical ceramic armor that was very light). So more or less the same proficiencies as a bard.</p><p></p><p>Saves: I'm thinking Fort and Will - the remembrancers weren't nimble and quick, but steadfast and strong-willed.</p><p></p><p>For flavor reasons, I wanted the class to have seven levels, one to master each bell, but that is open to adjustment, as are the actual abilities - this might be a lot to pack into a class and removing some of the less interesting abilities (or ones that don't fit in as well) would be OK. Also, the bells do not have to stay in the order that they were presented in the first post.</p><p></p><p>Some suggestions for the powers</p><p></p><p>Ranna - Symbol of Sleep</p><p></p><p>Mosrael - this is a tough one - in the books, the Abhorsen, Remembrancers and necromancers actually entered the lands of the dead and could use the bell either to call the dead to them or bring people back to life. I'm not sure I like either power in this context so I'm open to suggestions.</p><p></p><p>Kibeth - I like Child's suggestion, but the Walker is more like a weaker version of Saraneth. It's more of a commanding/turning/rebuking undead power than the freedom of movement that's implied by its description. Maybe something like Command Undead, Halt Undead and/or Expeditious Retreat?</p><p></p><p>Dyrim - Speak with Dead, maybe Comprehend Languages, Silence</p><p></p><p>Belgaer - Modify Memory</p><p></p><p>Saraneth - This is more of a strong command sort of power, like Dominate.</p><p></p><p>Astarael - In the books, this is really a death power, like Symbol of Death, that affects everyone, including the caster. It's something that the Abhorsen/Remembrancers use only in the most desperate of circumstances, but I'm all for making it something less drastic for my game.</p><p></p><p>Scrying the Past - this is closer to the Legend Lore ability, but I wonder if the Akashic class from Arcana Unearthed has a similar (and less powerful) ability?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eris404, post: 2709821, member: 5338"] Hey, thanks for the suggestions. Here some things I was thinking about: BAB and armor/weapon proficiencies: The remembrancers are only OK at combat; in the books, they do carry swords (from the description, I would have to say longswords), but they aren't necessarily the strongest fighters, just better fighters than mages. :) They also wore armor (including this neat magical ceramic armor that was very light). So more or less the same proficiencies as a bard. Saves: I'm thinking Fort and Will - the remembrancers weren't nimble and quick, but steadfast and strong-willed. For flavor reasons, I wanted the class to have seven levels, one to master each bell, but that is open to adjustment, as are the actual abilities - this might be a lot to pack into a class and removing some of the less interesting abilities (or ones that don't fit in as well) would be OK. Also, the bells do not have to stay in the order that they were presented in the first post. Some suggestions for the powers Ranna - Symbol of Sleep Mosrael - this is a tough one - in the books, the Abhorsen, Remembrancers and necromancers actually entered the lands of the dead and could use the bell either to call the dead to them or bring people back to life. I'm not sure I like either power in this context so I'm open to suggestions. Kibeth - I like Child's suggestion, but the Walker is more like a weaker version of Saraneth. It's more of a commanding/turning/rebuking undead power than the freedom of movement that's implied by its description. Maybe something like Command Undead, Halt Undead and/or Expeditious Retreat? Dyrim - Speak with Dead, maybe Comprehend Languages, Silence Belgaer - Modify Memory Saraneth - This is more of a strong command sort of power, like Dominate. Astarael - In the books, this is really a death power, like Symbol of Death, that affects everyone, including the caster. It's something that the Abhorsen/Remembrancers use only in the most desperate of circumstances, but I'm all for making it something less drastic for my game. Scrying the Past - this is closer to the Legend Lore ability, but I wonder if the Akashic class from Arcana Unearthed has a similar (and less powerful) ability? [/QUOTE]
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