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<blockquote data-quote="Chris_Nightwing" data-source="post: 6051823" data-attributes="member: 882">Then why do you want strength to have an effect on your ability to break down doors?&nbsp; The weedy guy might be an expert in carpentry. You either accept that both skill and talent play a role in both combat and other activities, or you do away with ability scores - that's a different game altogether.I'm not wholly familiar with the original fighting man so I can't comment on that. For 2E though, note that they decided that very weak and very strong characters should deal more damage? There's an ability component and a skill component (weapon specialization).Well what I take from that is that maybe we should use dexterity and strength together to see how effective you are at hitting goblins (I think this has been done somwhere?). You're right that smashing an altar is a pure expression of brute strength, but then taking the extreme position that hitting a goblin is a pure expression of skill - that it doesn't matter how strong you are, you'll hit it with a force based on how much sword-fighting you've done, and you'll hit accurately for the same reason, ignoring that you're naturally dextrous.Currently the Fighter can trivially pick between dexterity and strength, I quite like this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chris_Nightwing, post: 6051823, member: 882"] Then why do you want strength to have an effect on your ability to break down doors? The weedy guy might be an expert in carpentry. You either accept that both skill and talent play a role in both combat and other activities, or you do away with ability scores - that's a different game altogether. I'm not wholly familiar with the original fighting man so I can't comment on that. For 2E though, note that they decided that very weak and very strong characters should deal more damage? There's an ability component and a skill component (weapon specialization). Well what I take from that is that maybe we should use dexterity and strength together to see how effective you are at hitting goblins (I think this has been done somwhere?). You're right that smashing an altar is a pure expression of brute strength, but then taking the extreme position that hitting a goblin is a pure expression of skill - that it doesn't matter how strong you are, you'll hit it with a force based on how much sword-fighting you've done, and you'll hit accurately for the same reason, ignoring that you're naturally dextrous. Currently the Fighter can trivially pick between dexterity and strength, I quite like this. [/QUOTE]

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