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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8090219" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Ok, I guess that makes some sense.But wouldn't this just make it so no one would have to put a high number in an ability score really? I mean, I know most help out with a skill or more, and I assume saves wouldn't also depend on this, but you could have a decent STR fighter using a finesse weapon with a DEX 10 (in heavy armor) and still basically rocking a +5 to start with on their attacks? Then they could put the extra points in bumping other scores to improve their non-proficient saves.Ex. Half-Orc Fighter with STR +2 and CON +1STR 13DEX 10CON 14INT 13WIS 14CHA 13Wears chain mail and shield for AC 18, with a decent CON, and uses a Rapier as finesse to use DEX for attack rolls.With this idea, won't his attack roll be +5 and eventually like +11 or 12 or something? But now he benefits a +1 to INT and CHA saves and checks and a +2 to WIS save and checks (for things like Perception...).I understand the goal of this idea and played with a similar idea a long time ago of just using double proficiency bonus for attack rolls, but I saw weird things happening in the process.Am I missing something?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8090219, member: 6987520"] Ok, I guess that makes some sense. But wouldn't this just make it so no one would have to put a high number in an ability score really? I mean, I know most help out with a skill or more, and I assume saves wouldn't also depend on this, but you could have a decent STR fighter using a finesse weapon with a DEX 10 (in heavy armor) and still basically rocking a +5 to start with on their attacks? Then they could put the extra points in bumping other scores to improve their non-proficient saves. Ex. Half-Orc Fighter with STR +2 and CON +1 STR 13 DEX 10 CON 14 INT 13 WIS 14 CHA 13 Wears chain mail and shield for AC 18, with a decent CON, and uses a Rapier as finesse to use DEX for attack rolls. With this idea, won't his attack roll be +5 and eventually like +11 or 12 or something? But now he benefits a +1 to INT and CHA saves and checks and a +2 to WIS save and checks (for things like Perception...). I understand the goal of this idea and played with a similar idea a long time ago of just using double proficiency bonus for attack rolls, but I saw weird things happening in the process. Am I missing something? [/QUOTE]

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