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<blockquote data-quote="Fralex" data-source="post: 6460430" data-attributes="member: 6785902"><p>Yeah, I was referring more to the tedious sort of argument that just interrupts fun things. When something more or less subjective is part of a character's stats, determining an "objectively right interpretation" seems more important than it actually is.</p><p></p><p><strong>People likely to start an argument over the correct interpretation of a philosophical concept:</strong> People interested in philosophy</p><p><strong>People likely to start an argument over the correct interpretation of a game rule based on a philosophical concept:</strong> People interested in philosophy and gamers</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, even though the concept of good and evil gets brought up a lot as some age-old debate, it's actually not that hard to describe in general terms. "Good" means you have concern for and make an effort to improve the welfare of others. You care about whether other people get what they deserve, and try to prevent bad things from happening to good people( as per this definition) and vice versa. So I guess this means good is a recursive function? Whatever, the point is, altruism is even considered a valid concept in biology. People tend to have a good idea of what it is.</p><p></p><p>People <em>don't</em> grow up having an intuitive understanding of law and chaos. I personally have a lot of trouble with the concept of what Lawful Neutral means. So, like, you believe setting up and enforcing a system of rules is the right thing to do, but you're doing it for neither personal gain nor the improvement of the lives of others? What exactly does that mean the overall goal of your rules system <em>is?</em> It could be any one of the countless codes of belief people have devised throughout history. There's no one philosophy that is the quintessential lawful neutral belief. No wonder the modrons are just robots enforcing some vague cosmic laws the book never explains (I have <a href="http://community.wizards.com/comment/51443241#comment-51443241" target="_blank">my own theory</a> that I'm satisfied with, though).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fralex, post: 6460430, member: 6785902"] Yeah, I was referring more to the tedious sort of argument that just interrupts fun things. When something more or less subjective is part of a character's stats, determining an "objectively right interpretation" seems more important than it actually is. [B]People likely to start an argument over the correct interpretation of a philosophical concept:[/B] People interested in philosophy [B]People likely to start an argument over the correct interpretation of a game rule based on a philosophical concept:[/B] People interested in philosophy and gamers Yeah, even though the concept of good and evil gets brought up a lot as some age-old debate, it's actually not that hard to describe in general terms. "Good" means you have concern for and make an effort to improve the welfare of others. You care about whether other people get what they deserve, and try to prevent bad things from happening to good people( as per this definition) and vice versa. So I guess this means good is a recursive function? Whatever, the point is, altruism is even considered a valid concept in biology. People tend to have a good idea of what it is. People [I]don't[/I] grow up having an intuitive understanding of law and chaos. I personally have a lot of trouble with the concept of what Lawful Neutral means. So, like, you believe setting up and enforcing a system of rules is the right thing to do, but you're doing it for neither personal gain nor the improvement of the lives of others? What exactly does that mean the overall goal of your rules system [I]is?[/I] It could be any one of the countless codes of belief people have devised throughout history. There's no one philosophy that is the quintessential lawful neutral belief. No wonder the modrons are just robots enforcing some vague cosmic laws the book never explains (I have [URL="http://community.wizards.com/comment/51443241#comment-51443241"]my own theory[/URL] that I'm satisfied with, though). [/QUOTE]
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