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<blockquote data-quote="Petrosian" data-source="post: 457142" data-attributes="member: 1149">I am quite confused now.if you had read my post, you should have realize i was specifically talking about the &quot;stop&quot; vs &quot;has an opportunity to stop&quot; issue for no-AOO vs AOO situations.Which would make your counterpoint here somewhat non-sensical since thats exactly what i am referring to. Thegnome should get a chance to STOP the golem, and whether or not he succeeds depends on whether or not he CAN.This is in opposition to the situation you seem to like, that the golem is stopped whether he wishes to or not by the presence of the gnome irregardless of whether the gnome can actually hurt the golem or do anything with his AoO.that seems confusing.I will restate my position...1. An AoO allows a character an EXTRA opportunity to take advanateg of opponet actions deemed &quot;bad to do.&quot; The key words are EXTRA and OPPORTUNITY.2. by making it EXTRA, there is an actual disincentive. If you do these bad things, the enemy gets MORE than he would normally.3. By making it an opportunity and not an automatic &quot;you are only allowed to make 5' steps in threatened areas&quot;, as some are suggesting as &quot;more realistic&quot;, you still keep it to sensible reaches... you are given the *opportunity*&nbsp; so make of it what you will.If this all strikes you as crazy, or the gnome and golem example fiat makes sense to you, we share different realities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Petrosian, post: 457142, member: 1149"] I am quite confused now. if you had read my post, you should have realize i was specifically talking about the "stop" vs "has an opportunity to stop" issue for no-AOO vs AOO situations. Which would make your counterpoint here somewhat non-sensical since thats exactly what i am referring to. Thegnome should get a chance to STOP the golem, and whether or not he succeeds depends on whether or not he CAN. This is in opposition to the situation you seem to like, that the golem is stopped whether he wishes to or not by the presence of the gnome irregardless of whether the gnome can actually hurt the golem or do anything with his AoO. that seems confusing. I will restate my position... 1. An AoO allows a character an EXTRA opportunity to take advanateg of opponet actions deemed "bad to do." The key words are EXTRA and OPPORTUNITY. 2. by making it EXTRA, there is an actual disincentive. If you do these bad things, the enemy gets MORE than he would normally. 3. By making it an opportunity and not an automatic "you are only allowed to make 5' steps in threatened areas", as some are suggesting as "more realistic", you still keep it to sensible reaches... you are given the *opportunity* so make of it what you will. If this all strikes you as crazy, or the gnome and golem example fiat makes sense to you, we share different realities. [/QUOTE]

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