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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4916246" data-attributes="member: 51325">re: Fireball vs flamestrikeEr, there's about as much difference in the fireball/flame strike in 3e as there in 4e.3e Fireball is a 20' radius/ long range d6 per caster level damage spell that needs Line of Effect. Available to wizards by level 5 and caps by level 103e Flamestrike is a 10' radius/40ft high cylinder medium range that does d6 per caster level damage that doesn't need line of effect. Available to druids by level 7 and clerics at level 9 and caps by level 15.Assuming I had access to both, main difference in play I found was that flamestrike's was that you didn't need Line of Effect thus you could  set up behind a wall of force or such effect and go to town.(Never really found a situation where the added "height" of the flamestrike made a tacical difference and unlike 2e, where flamestrike might be your only attack spell, in 3e, I wouldn't bother using flamestrike against a fire resistant foe since you had so many better options)4e fireball is an area burst 3 within 20 squares that does 3d6 + stat damage to ALL creatures that on a miss does half damage. Available to wizards at level 94e flamestrike is an area burst 2 within 10 squares that does 2d10 + stat damage plus 5 ongoing (save ends) to ALL ENEMIES. Miss does half damage but no ongoing. Available to clerics at level 9.The biggest difference is that fireball you actually have to worry about your teammates whereas flamestrike allows you to slam it down even when your teammate is right there.  Furthermore, there's lots of options/incentives to modify the save ends portion of the spell for flamestrike. You can increase how much damage the ongoing does and also affect the actual save ends throw. Whereas a wizard wouldn't really care about this if he had a fireball.</blockquote>

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