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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4916256" data-attributes="member: 710">I think the PHB 2 classes add a lot more "inhomegenity" to the game. The Spirit Shaman conjures a Spirit aid to his help. The Druid can shapeshift. The Barbarian has Rages. Everything still fits in the At-Will/Encounter/Daily scheme, but there can be no mistake about that - even before playing the game - that these classes are different. I think the "mistake" in homogenity is not really in the combat aspect, though. I think once you play the game, the characters still play very different from each other. You make different tactical decisions based on your classes abilities and even build.The "mistake" is what KM notes -the similar abilities out of combat. It essentially boils down to the skills you have. A few utility powers (and at least with the Monk, even some attack powers) might add to that, but most of them seem more aimed at combat.So I'd try to add more class features and maybe a new group of powers that belong to the specific class. Kinda like the SAGA and d20 Modern Talent System, but with _no_ combat relevance.The Wizard gets free rituals every 5 levels. That's neat. But there could be more - the ability to perform rituals faster or cheaper or both, for example. The ability to research a ritual instead of buying a scroll or ritual book. The Ranger could get "Bounty Hunter" features that aid him in tracking down a target. Or he gets travel-related features. The Fighter and Warlord might get some features in regards to gaining followers. The Rogue might be able to enter rogue guilds and be better in finding someone taking the PCs loot, getting better deals out of it, or ensuring they find something at all. Of course, this can still be done in the current system to some extent - class specific feats could grant such abilities. But that also means you have to choose between combat and non-combat feats, and we know what this typically leads to.It seems better to "silo" such abilities - they come as class features or class talents where the player has only choices between these "story"-related features.</blockquote>

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