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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4930230" data-attributes="member: 7635">Yeah, that's pretty much it. This thread (and its cousin) seem to fall into three groups: 1.) See homogeneity & Like it. 2.) See homogeneity and Hate it. 3.) Don't see Homogeneity, whatchutalkinabout Wilis?Group one and group two can agree to disagree. Group three cannot grasp the question. See, at this point I think 4e is going to be what it is. I'm not sure they could make enough future supplements, stealth-errata, and outright "4.5" level changes to bring some disgruntled players back (some might, some never would). I seriously think (no joke) 4e is going to be a "lost edition" like 2e; many old players leave it, but hundreds of new players join (I was one of those 2e newbies who never saw 1e until years later). However, in a dozen years (give or take) WotC designers (having learned the limits of their new system structure) will go back to "the math", fix the glaring errors, add a dash of nostalgic elements to lure back some of the lost players, and come out with a 5e that will be utterly amazing. (I base this off of the fact this is the same company that makes Magic: The Gathering. They took a LOT of flack for 5th edition and the removal of "staple" cards, and two edition later, welcome back Serra and Shivan!)</blockquote>