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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anonymous3" data-source="post: 9782858" data-attributes="member: 7046807">Thank you.I quickly looked up Wererat - CR2; 33hp; 12AC; multi-attack (2); bloodied (bonus action attack); um no sneak attack (D14/24 and A5e). One CR2 creature is a challenge for a level two party of four members - "A monster with a CR equal to a party's level is considered a medium-difficulty challenge, assuming the party is rested and has all its resources.". I mean one of these guys is enough for a level 3 party and I'm not even trying to calculate threat level here. Your party was doomed with four of them even with the best rolls. Maybe a super optimized party would have survived but I'm doubtful. I would retcon the whole thing with one wererat and when the party sees how challenging it is they will be better informed about what four of these terrors actually are and make better decisions. And... if they aren't cautious then you can remind them that they struggled with one and a retreat is likely the best option. Remember that your players aren't warriors, their characters are - give them the information required for them to make decisions as if they are the warriors.It also appears that you make optimal tactical decisions while your players are the embodiment of "oh look, little ducks in a row" type of strategy.If you are genuinely reaching out for help, which I believe you are, then I would say that you have an adversarial problem at your table from all sides. The players are trying to beat you but are ignorant of how stacked the table is on your side. Your players should be sharing their strategies with you and you should be helping them solve their solutions. </blockquote>

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