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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 7884735" data-attributes="member: 72555">I assumed your party had next to zero offensive optimizzations, and I got combat durations similar to what you experienced.I then replaced 2 of your party members with offensively optimized characters and could kill 8 scarecrows in 2 rounds.You asked &quot;how do fights end in 2-3 rounds&quot; - and the answer is people build characters that can deal damage faster.If you have a party with zero offensive optimization you will find fighting takes longer.I actually miscounted and simulated a 2 round fight against 8 scarecrows.&nbsp; The aoe caster burning hands 6/8.Then throwing a deadly+ encounter of weapon-resistant monsters against a party with only single target weapon damage is going to be a grind.Fixing that by rebuilding how HP works is ridiculous.Your party?&nbsp; Quite possibly.&nbsp; I suspect your party needs someone able to AOE blast, or heck non-weapon damage.The dire wolves you should have been able to make short work of.&nbsp; Talk to the bard; with that party, dissonant whispers is a save-or-die.The scarecrows exploited a serious weakness in your party composition and build, and on top of that was a crazy deadly encounter budget.Maybe your DM isn't following the really over complex and annoying rules.&nbsp; I really wish they had used a different system; there are plenty that you can use that are basically equivalent but don't screw around with encounter size multipliers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 7884735, member: 72555"] I assumed your party had next to zero offensive optimizzations, and I got combat durations similar to what you experienced. I then replaced 2 of your party members with offensively optimized characters and could kill 8 scarecrows in 2 rounds. You asked "how do fights end in 2-3 rounds" - and the answer is people build characters that can deal damage faster. If you have a party with zero offensive optimization you will find fighting takes longer. I actually miscounted and simulated a 2 round fight against 8 scarecrows. The aoe caster burning hands 6/8. Then throwing a deadly+ encounter of weapon-resistant monsters against a party with only single target weapon damage is going to be a grind. Fixing [B]that[/B] by rebuilding how HP works is ridiculous. Your party? Quite possibly. I suspect your party needs someone able to AOE blast, or heck non-weapon damage. The dire wolves you should have been able to make short work of. Talk to the bard; with that party, dissonant whispers is a save-or-die. The scarecrows exploited a serious weakness in your party composition and build, and on top of that was a crazy deadly encounter budget. Maybe your DM isn't following the really over complex and annoying rules. I really wish they had used a different system; there are plenty that you can use that are basically equivalent but don't screw around with encounter size multipliers. [/QUOTE]

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