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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7885019" data-attributes="member: 6987520">No problem--I love devil's advocates! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So, you don't throw orcs at 1st level PCs in 5E. You did in 1E and 2E, all the time. Orcs were strong, but not STR 16 burly brutes. You have things like Warcraft to thank for that and anime-style stuff. Nothing wrong with it if that's your preference, but it isn't mine. If the average human has STR 10, I am fine with orcs being stronger and having an average STR 12, with their &quot;stronger&quot; warriors maybe STR 14?Here is more my idea of what a typical orc warrior would be like:[ATTACH=full]117188[/ATTACH]At least when I see movies like LotR and such. Now, the stronger Uruk-hai reminds me of your standard 5E orcs, but I suppose those are supposed to be the orogs?Now, my orc is more comparable with a 5E goblin. Of course, I don't want restat every monster and giving them half or minimum hp works strongly towards my goal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7885019, member: 6987520"] No problem--I love devil's advocates! :) So, you don't throw orcs at 1st level PCs in 5E. You did in 1E and 2E, all the time. Orcs were strong, but not STR 16 burly brutes. You have things like Warcraft to thank for that and anime-style stuff. Nothing wrong with it if that's your preference, but it isn't mine. If the average human has STR 10, I am fine with orcs being stronger and having an average STR 12, with their "stronger" warriors maybe STR 14? Here is more my idea of what a typical orc warrior would be like: [ATTACH type="full" width="418px"]117188[/ATTACH] At least when I see movies like LotR and such. Now, the stronger Uruk-hai reminds me of your standard 5E orcs, but I suppose those are supposed to be the orogs? Now, my orc is more comparable with a 5E goblin. Of course, I don't want restat every monster and giving them half or minimum hp works strongly towards my goal. [/QUOTE]

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