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<blockquote data-quote="Markn" data-source="post: 5026688" data-attributes="member: 21827"><p>Maybe it would make more sense to allow the player to choose a Primary and a secondary stat. The primary stat could only be chosen from a list of 3 abilities that match the intent of the class. For example, as a fighter, rogue or ranger you could have powers key off of str, dex or con but not Int, wis or cha. Wizards and clerics could use Int, Wis or Cha. This may be easier to explain than the wizard who uses Str to cast spells. Plus some classes can blur the mental/physical abilities with a few of each like Bards, Druids and Warlocks.</p><p></p><p>Then, perhaps, the secondary ability could be completely wide open. As a fighter I choose Str as my primary, then choose Cha as a secondary that through the use of feats affects my powers giving benefits similar to those proposed by RangerWickett. This would make for more diverse classes, and a vastly different feel.</p><p></p><p>4E is close to this concept in that they allow a variety of secondary abilities to have some effect, just not enough of an effect and the choices are still limited. There are not enough powers that use the role subtype and it usually only comes into play maybe once an encounter and often less than that. Additionally, since racial ability bonuses still exist, players are still encouraged to buid certain stereotypes and players that choose to go outside the norm would not be making a subpar choice.</p><p></p><p>The more I think about it, the more I think feats should open up/unlock extra abilities that can act as riders on powers becuase you are good in a skill or ability. This means if you are a Str/Cha fighter, you can accomplish a lot of different things from a Str/Con fighter even if you have identical powers. This greatly increases tactical options and thinking and diverses classes a lot. Again, the list that RangerWickett provides would be a great example of riders for powers either further enhancing them or giving additional effects.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Markn, post: 5026688, member: 21827"] Maybe it would make more sense to allow the player to choose a Primary and a secondary stat. The primary stat could only be chosen from a list of 3 abilities that match the intent of the class. For example, as a fighter, rogue or ranger you could have powers key off of str, dex or con but not Int, wis or cha. Wizards and clerics could use Int, Wis or Cha. This may be easier to explain than the wizard who uses Str to cast spells. Plus some classes can blur the mental/physical abilities with a few of each like Bards, Druids and Warlocks. Then, perhaps, the secondary ability could be completely wide open. As a fighter I choose Str as my primary, then choose Cha as a secondary that through the use of feats affects my powers giving benefits similar to those proposed by RangerWickett. This would make for more diverse classes, and a vastly different feel. 4E is close to this concept in that they allow a variety of secondary abilities to have some effect, just not enough of an effect and the choices are still limited. There are not enough powers that use the role subtype and it usually only comes into play maybe once an encounter and often less than that. Additionally, since racial ability bonuses still exist, players are still encouraged to buid certain stereotypes and players that choose to go outside the norm would not be making a subpar choice. The more I think about it, the more I think feats should open up/unlock extra abilities that can act as riders on powers becuase you are good in a skill or ability. This means if you are a Str/Cha fighter, you can accomplish a lot of different things from a Str/Con fighter even if you have identical powers. This greatly increases tactical options and thinking and diverses classes a lot. Again, the list that RangerWickett provides would be a great example of riders for powers either further enhancing them or giving additional effects. [/QUOTE]
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