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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eldritch_Lord" data-source="post: 5868681" data-attributes="member: 52073">Solemnization has always been defined as being between one male PC and one female PC, period.  That's what the 1e DMG said, and that's good enough for me.  Many male players play male PCs more than female PCs, so if you want to allow players to choose that lifestyle for their characters, they'll just use it for powergaming purposes.And we haven’t taken this to its ultimate conclusion.  You got male/male PC solemnization powergaming out there. How can we rule that full-party solemnization is illegal when you say that male/male PC solemnization is legal.  What is it about the full party that’s different?  Well, full-party solemnization wasn't allowed in 1e because it was considered unbalancing by Gygax's standards.  But if we take his standards away in one case, what about the others? And what about animal companions for non-druids and ultimately what about undead minions for non-necromancers?  What happens to role protection then?  How can we disallow these things and at the same time have supplements allowing solemnization between two male PCs.  You mark my words, this is just the beginning in a long downward slide in relation to all the things that we consider to be abhorrent.[sblock]The previous paragraph written with apologies to <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/05/07/39152/robertson-child-molestation/" target="_blank">Pat Robertson</a>. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />[/sblock]Absolutely not.  I hate this MMO-ification of D&D, I really do.  AoE solemnization is completely unrealistic.  I mean, sure, it works in anime, where you can keep picking up partner after partner, but in AD&D you got one solemnized partner when you reached name level, in addition to your keep, your 2.5 followers and your dog--and that was it, and we were happy with it.</blockquote>

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