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<blockquote data-quote="newgrace" data-source="post: 4025204" data-attributes="member: 48178">I agree with you, I like death to be more permenant as it creates more stress and excitement.&nbsp; Plus when you do pull it off and everyone is barely alive, thats a good feeling.&nbsp; Other people like it different, but your not alone in wanting life to be more valuable (And combat taking more strategy/planning).I believe its in Heroes of Horror that I got my ideas.&nbsp; I just made the &quot;im alive again!&quot; spells much harder to cast, rare to find, and require expensive components / quests.&nbsp; I was going for a horror game (Cthulhu and DND, yay).&nbsp; My True Resurrection required someone to take the dead persons place &quot;a life for a life&quot;, and even then, only &quot;evil&quot; temples or worshipers of dark gods would perform the rituals needed for these &quot;im alive again!&quot; spells.&nbsp; So the party would have to search out groups that wanted to remain hidden, convince one who had the knowledge of what to do, and then pay a horrific cost (a child's body, no more then a week dead) thats hard to come by legally.&nbsp; It made the spells possible, but life a lot more valuable.&nbsp; And I kept all the &quot;Gona kill you sucka&quot; spells as I wanted the more dangerous element.&nbsp; Taking out the Slay Living just because resurrection is no longer a viable option creates balance, but does not make life more valuable as your removing the spell to come back to life, and the spell that instantly kills.&nbsp; I say leave in the death effects, your players should be smart enough to get plenty of protection vs death effects, and give them hints and time to research fights before they stumble on the Bodak.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="newgrace, post: 4025204, member: 48178"] I agree with you, I like death to be more permenant as it creates more stress and excitement. Plus when you do pull it off and everyone is barely alive, thats a good feeling. Other people like it different, but your not alone in wanting life to be more valuable (And combat taking more strategy/planning). I believe its in Heroes of Horror that I got my ideas. I just made the "im alive again!" spells much harder to cast, rare to find, and require expensive components / quests. I was going for a horror game (Cthulhu and DND, yay). My True Resurrection required someone to take the dead persons place "a life for a life", and even then, only "evil" temples or worshipers of dark gods would perform the rituals needed for these "im alive again!" spells. So the party would have to search out groups that wanted to remain hidden, convince one who had the knowledge of what to do, and then pay a horrific cost (a child's body, no more then a week dead) thats hard to come by legally. It made the spells possible, but life a lot more valuable. And I kept all the "Gona kill you sucka" spells as I wanted the more dangerous element. Taking out the Slay Living just because resurrection is no longer a viable option creates balance, but does not make life more valuable as your removing the spell to come back to life, and the spell that instantly kills. I say leave in the death effects, your players should be smart enough to get plenty of protection vs death effects, and give them hints and time to research fights before they stumble on the Bodak. [/QUOTE]

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