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<blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 3648925" data-attributes="member: 6777">The kindest argument is that, by keeping things secret from the other players, you're depriving them of a lot of entertainment. You and the DM are excluding the other people at the table from potential fun. It's hard for me, as someone else at the table, to really give a hoot about your PC if not privy to most of what they do. You're also, to a certain extent, making me sit there doing nothing while you and the DM go off and scribble notes to each other.The less kind argument is the implication that your table isn't capable of separating player knowledge from character knowledge, which in turn touches on issues people may have with &quot;getting screwed&quot; by the DM or other players (e.g., &quot;issues about metagaming&quot;). There's a whole can of worms here, IMO.Ergo, while I won't dismiss note-passing as inherently bad, I do stand by my belief that it's a red flag. Any group whose play consists of furious note-passing and sidebars with the GM is most likely a group I'm not going to enjoy playing with. This was certainly a factor in the group I mentioned leaving up-thread.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="buzz, post: 3648925, member: 6777"] The kindest argument is that, by keeping things secret from the other [I]players[/I], you're depriving them of a lot of entertainment. You and the DM are excluding the other people at the table from potential fun. It's hard for me, as someone else at the table, to really give a hoot about your PC if not privy to most of what they do. You're also, to a certain extent, making me sit there doing nothing while you and the DM go off and scribble notes to each other. The less kind argument is the implication that your table isn't capable of separating player knowledge from character knowledge, which in turn touches on issues people may have with "getting screwed" by the DM or other players (e.g., "issues about metagaming"). There's a whole can of worms here, IMO. Ergo, while I won't dismiss note-passing as inherently bad, I do stand by my belief that it's a red flag. Any group whose play consists of furious note-passing and sidebars with the GM is most likely a group I'm not going to enjoy playing with. This was certainly a factor in the group I mentioned leaving up-thread. [/QUOTE]

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