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<blockquote data-quote="Swarmkeeper" data-source="post: 9546826" data-attributes="member: 6921763">I'd argue that [USER=7031982]@Bill Zebub[/USER]'s methodology actually enhances the &quot;usefulness&quot; of all PCs outside of the combat pillar, regardless of class/subclass/abilities/whatever.&nbsp; But, I get it.&nbsp; That's not what this thread is about.Back to the premise:The party scout has returned to the party, who are hidden safely in the wood (frickin' Leomond's Tiny Hut!), to let them know there are two goblin guards outside the mouth of a cave in a clearing 1,000 feet to the north.&nbsp; The cave is at the base of a cliff that is 400 feet high.&nbsp; A third and fourth goblin have been passing by the mouth of the cave every 15 minutes or so, apparently on a predetermined lookout circuit.&nbsp; The scout couldn't hear the stationary guards clearly but did make out a few exasperated, exaggerated words in goblin:&nbsp; &quot;hungry&quot;, &quot;forever&quot;, &quot;unfair&quot;.The party needs to get into that cave, for reasons, and wants to be sure that anyone in the cave has no forewarning.How might this play out?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Swarmkeeper, post: 9546826, member: 6921763"] I'd argue that [USER=7031982]@Bill Zebub[/USER]'s methodology actually [I]enhances[/I] the "usefulness" of all PCs outside of the combat pillar, regardless of class/subclass/abilities/whatever. But, I get it. That's not what this thread is about. Back to the premise: The party scout has returned to the party, who are hidden safely in the wood (frickin' Leomond's Tiny Hut!), to let them know there are two goblin guards outside the mouth of a cave in a clearing 1,000 feet to the north. The cave is at the base of a cliff that is 400 feet high. A third and fourth goblin have been passing by the mouth of the cave every 15 minutes or so, apparently on a predetermined lookout circuit. The scout couldn't hear the stationary guards clearly but did make out a few exasperated, exaggerated words in goblin: "hungry", "forever", "unfair". The party needs to get into that cave, for reasons, and wants to be sure that anyone in the cave has no forewarning. How might this play out? [/QUOTE]

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