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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 6228633" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>Maybe so, but really I don't understand this reply. What about it being polled at 16% is important to what I said?</p><p></p><p>I mean, I selected kobold as well, so I'm one of that 16% but it doesn't negate the poll options being terrible. I voted on each of the polls. And like usual I found the polls to not reflect what I really wanted to say on the subject. But if the regular polls are bad, as I already said, then the dragon article polls are on a whole new level as they add in things that are not discussed or related, like kobold. And further, give no option to say "this is unrelated" like the half-dragon. And worse, in the second (or third) poll seems to really conflate the two when asking for the origins of the dragonborn, with people mostly picking dragon-parent and humanoid-parent (at the time I answered) for something that I think that applies to half-dragon mostly and almost not at all to (as Wyatt describes) kobolds, draconians, dragonborn of bahamut, and even spellscales, and 4e's dragonborn (of Io?). So I think that it is extra terrible in this regard because it lumps them all together when it shouldn't. So, 16% relates how?</p><p></p><p>A comparable example, IMHO, would be if Wyatt had done an article about dragons, then in the polls he gives options of dragons, wyverns, basilisks, and dragon-turtles and gave an option (which is most highly selected) of frog sitting on chicken egg (or whatever the basilisk origin is) for all of them and thinking that that is what people thought <em>all dragons</em> should be like. I think that woefully under specifies what people actually think. So, in this case the poll is not only bad, but misleadingly bad. Usually it is just bad because it is self-congratulatory or an assumed positive spin. So, it is that plus not getting (again, based on how the polls are phrased) an accurate picture of what people really think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 6228633, member: 95493"] Maybe so, but really I don't understand this reply. What about it being polled at 16% is important to what I said? I mean, I selected kobold as well, so I'm one of that 16% but it doesn't negate the poll options being terrible. I voted on each of the polls. And like usual I found the polls to not reflect what I really wanted to say on the subject. But if the regular polls are bad, as I already said, then the dragon article polls are on a whole new level as they add in things that are not discussed or related, like kobold. And further, give no option to say "this is unrelated" like the half-dragon. And worse, in the second (or third) poll seems to really conflate the two when asking for the origins of the dragonborn, with people mostly picking dragon-parent and humanoid-parent (at the time I answered) for something that I think that applies to half-dragon mostly and almost not at all to (as Wyatt describes) kobolds, draconians, dragonborn of bahamut, and even spellscales, and 4e's dragonborn (of Io?). So I think that it is extra terrible in this regard because it lumps them all together when it shouldn't. So, 16% relates how? A comparable example, IMHO, would be if Wyatt had done an article about dragons, then in the polls he gives options of dragons, wyverns, basilisks, and dragon-turtles and gave an option (which is most highly selected) of frog sitting on chicken egg (or whatever the basilisk origin is) for all of them and thinking that that is what people thought [I]all dragons[/I] should be like. I think that woefully under specifies what people actually think. So, in this case the poll is not only bad, but misleadingly bad. Usually it is just bad because it is self-congratulatory or an assumed positive spin. So, it is that plus not getting (again, based on how the polls are phrased) an accurate picture of what people really think. [/QUOTE]
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