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Renegade Studios Sends C&D To Stop Small Creator Using The Word 'Renegade'
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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 9048183" data-attributes="member: 1"><p>[ATTACH=full]288056[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Every few years in the TTRPG industry, this happens--a company attempts to prevent others from using certain words in their product names. Normally, that's a trademark issue and perfectly understandable: you can't call your game 'Dungeons & Dragons' for obvious reasons. But sometimes companies call in the lawyers to stop usage of common words or terms which are not trademarks in themselves. Games Workshop and '<a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21380003" target="_blank">space marine</a>' hit mainstream news about 10 years ago, Lone Wolf issued C&Ds over the term '<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/lone-wolf-sends-cease-desist-letters-to-anyone-using-the-term-army-builder.271482/" target="_blank">army builder</a>' in 2010, and now <strong>Renegade Game Studios</strong>--which makes a number of licensed TTRPGs such as <em>Transformers, GI Joe</em>, and <em>Vampire: The Masquerade</em>--has apparently laid claim to the word '<strong>renegade</strong>'. This often results in the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect" target="_blank">Streisand Effect</a> and has the opposite result to that intended.</p><p></p><p>The Polyhedral Knights had a recent <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wastelandsaga1/renegade-city" target="_blank">Kickstarter for a game called 'Renegade City'</a> which is billed as a tabletop RPG where you play criminals, and uses dominoes rather than dice. According to <a href="https://cannibalhalflinggaming.com/2023/06/17/weekend-update-6-17-2023/?fbclid=IwAR11skht-VdFjIRh6f57-9vu_lOZGafuZ5tAe63-YRW9mgt0jLuld7CGc5s" target="_blank">Cannibal Halfling Gaming</a>, a couple of days ago The Polyhedral Knights received a letter from Renegade Game Studios' lawyers demanding that they remove the word 'Renegade' from the title of the game.</p><p></p><p>[callout]“Unfortunately, your use of the term “Renegade” in the title of your new game creates the likelihood that consumers might be confused between our client’s games and your game, or believe that the two are connected or affiliated. The likelihood of confusion is particularly acute because you are using the “Renegade” element on the identical types of products that are sold by Renegade, and you are both selling to the same types of consumers in the same market channels. As such, Renegade must ask that you agree to rename your game to remove the “Renegade” element. As such, Renegade must ask that you agree to rename your game to remove the “Renegade” element.” [/callout]</p><p>Renegade Game Studios has allegedly threatened to issue a trademark complaint to Kickstarter (although the campaign is over, so it's a little late for that!) unless The Polyhedral Knights complies by June 23rd.</p><p></p><p>Mickey Barfield, the creator of Renegade City, spoke to <a href="https://cannibalhalflinggaming.com/2023/06/17/weekend-update-6-17-2023/?fbclid=IwAR11skht-VdFjIRh6f57-9vu_lOZGafuZ5tAe63-YRW9mgt0jLuld7CGc5s" target="_blank">Cannibal Halfling Gaming</a> a couple of days ago:</p><p></p><p>[callout]“It really caught me off guard and frankly upset me. I am blown away at how they can think that my game title “Renegade City” will take away from them in any shape or fashion. Our Kickstarter is about to end in 9 hours [3:08 PM EDT] and we just now get this? I’m still pretty hurt over this. It seems like if they are willing to go after me over something like this, then what is stopping another company like Wizards of the Coast from going after some other company cause the word Wizard is used in a title of a book or game? It’s crazy.”[/callout]</p><p>The news first broke on Twitter when <a href="https://twitter.com/SprintingOwl/status/1669765512954347521" target="_blank">Sprinting Owl Designs reported</a> that "a designer I've previously worked with (The Polyhedral Knights) reports that he just got cease and desisted by Renegade Game Studios (Hunter 5e, GI Joe) for having the word 'renegade' in his game's title."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 9048183, member: 1"] [ATTACH type="full" alt="28a4c9b48638a9e4e1ef0c14dcd87969_original.jpg"]288056[/ATTACH] Every few years in the TTRPG industry, this happens--a company attempts to prevent others from using certain words in their product names. Normally, that's a trademark issue and perfectly understandable: you can't call your game 'Dungeons & Dragons' for obvious reasons. But sometimes companies call in the lawyers to stop usage of common words or terms which are not trademarks in themselves. Games Workshop and '[URL='https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21380003']space marine[/URL]' hit mainstream news about 10 years ago, Lone Wolf issued C&Ds over the term '[URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/lone-wolf-sends-cease-desist-letters-to-anyone-using-the-term-army-builder.271482/']army builder[/URL]' in 2010, and now [B]Renegade Game Studios[/B]--which makes a number of licensed TTRPGs such as [I]Transformers, GI Joe[/I], and [I]Vampire: The Masquerade[/I]--has apparently laid claim to the word '[B]renegade[/B]'. This often results in the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect']Streisand Effect[/URL] and has the opposite result to that intended. The Polyhedral Knights had a recent [URL='https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wastelandsaga1/renegade-city']Kickstarter for a game called 'Renegade City'[/URL] which is billed as a tabletop RPG where you play criminals, and uses dominoes rather than dice. According to [URL='https://cannibalhalflinggaming.com/2023/06/17/weekend-update-6-17-2023/?fbclid=IwAR11skht-VdFjIRh6f57-9vu_lOZGafuZ5tAe63-YRW9mgt0jLuld7CGc5s']Cannibal Halfling Gaming[/URL], a couple of days ago The Polyhedral Knights received a letter from Renegade Game Studios' lawyers demanding that they remove the word 'Renegade' from the title of the game. [callout]“Unfortunately, your use of the term “Renegade” in the title of your new game creates the likelihood that consumers might be confused between our client’s games and your game, or believe that the two are connected or affiliated. The likelihood of confusion is particularly acute because you are using the “Renegade” element on the identical types of products that are sold by Renegade, and you are both selling to the same types of consumers in the same market channels. As such, Renegade must ask that you agree to rename your game to remove the “Renegade” element. As such, Renegade must ask that you agree to rename your game to remove the “Renegade” element.” [/callout] Renegade Game Studios has allegedly threatened to issue a trademark complaint to Kickstarter (although the campaign is over, so it's a little late for that!) unless The Polyhedral Knights complies by June 23rd. Mickey Barfield, the creator of Renegade City, spoke to [URL='https://cannibalhalflinggaming.com/2023/06/17/weekend-update-6-17-2023/?fbclid=IwAR11skht-VdFjIRh6f57-9vu_lOZGafuZ5tAe63-YRW9mgt0jLuld7CGc5s']Cannibal Halfling Gaming[/URL] a couple of days ago: [callout]“It really caught me off guard and frankly upset me. I am blown away at how they can think that my game title “Renegade City” will take away from them in any shape or fashion. Our Kickstarter is about to end in 9 hours [3:08 PM EDT] and we just now get this? I’m still pretty hurt over this. It seems like if they are willing to go after me over something like this, then what is stopping another company like Wizards of the Coast from going after some other company cause the word Wizard is used in a title of a book or game? It’s crazy.”[/callout] The news first broke on Twitter when [URL='https://twitter.com/SprintingOwl/status/1669765512954347521']Sprinting Owl Designs reported[/URL] that "a designer I've previously worked with (The Polyhedral Knights) reports that he just got cease and desisted by Renegade Game Studios (Hunter 5e, GI Joe) for having the word 'renegade' in his game's title." [/QUOTE]
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