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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6236797" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>When someone is objectively wrong, I do think it's fair to discount it, to some degree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't share your perception, I suspect thousands of people don't share your perception, and I am trying to change your perception by pointing out that it's objectively flawed. I'd be doing the same thing if you were saying you simply perceive the earth to be flat and I should give great credence to that perception. </p><p></p><p>I also think Paizo figured out they were over-publishing. They just cut the individual adventures, and reduced the upcoming schedule relative to the prior two years. I'm betting they saw some dropping sales in some types of products, from the glut. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WOTC's didn't feel like filler or churn to meet a deadline either. </p><p></p><p>Here's what I suspect might be going on here - you like Pathfinder, and you're not really much of a fan of 4e, and so you didn't really read much of the "fluff" type hardback books for 4e. Am I right in that guess, or way off? </p><p></p><p>Did you read Open Grave: Secrets of the Undead, The Plane Above: Secrets of the Astral Sea, The Plane Below: Secrets of the Elemental Chaos, Underdark, Hammerfast, or any of the other fluff-heavy books in the line? To me, these are some of the best books published for any version of D&D in many years, and I don't think they should be bashed as churn or things to meet a deadline, particularly if it turns out you never even read them.</p><p></p><p>I think Paizo publishes high quality material, most of the time. I have no bash here for them. I don't play Pathfinder, but that's purely because my group happens to not be into it. I'd be fine playing it.</p><p></p><p>But I think it's bloody obvious that, between WOTC for 4e, and Paizo for Pathfinder, it's hands down an easy call to say Paizo has been glutting the market far more than WOTC in the past two years. And if you "perceive" it to be different than that...I have to wonder if it's just a matter of faith in a company or product line you happen to like that is coloring that perception, versus a company or product line you don't have much interest in?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6236797, member: 2525"] When someone is objectively wrong, I do think it's fair to discount it, to some degree. I don't share your perception, I suspect thousands of people don't share your perception, and I am trying to change your perception by pointing out that it's objectively flawed. I'd be doing the same thing if you were saying you simply perceive the earth to be flat and I should give great credence to that perception. I also think Paizo figured out they were over-publishing. They just cut the individual adventures, and reduced the upcoming schedule relative to the prior two years. I'm betting they saw some dropping sales in some types of products, from the glut. WOTC's didn't feel like filler or churn to meet a deadline either. Here's what I suspect might be going on here - you like Pathfinder, and you're not really much of a fan of 4e, and so you didn't really read much of the "fluff" type hardback books for 4e. Am I right in that guess, or way off? Did you read Open Grave: Secrets of the Undead, The Plane Above: Secrets of the Astral Sea, The Plane Below: Secrets of the Elemental Chaos, Underdark, Hammerfast, or any of the other fluff-heavy books in the line? To me, these are some of the best books published for any version of D&D in many years, and I don't think they should be bashed as churn or things to meet a deadline, particularly if it turns out you never even read them. I think Paizo publishes high quality material, most of the time. I have no bash here for them. I don't play Pathfinder, but that's purely because my group happens to not be into it. I'd be fine playing it. But I think it's bloody obvious that, between WOTC for 4e, and Paizo for Pathfinder, it's hands down an easy call to say Paizo has been glutting the market far more than WOTC in the past two years. And if you "perceive" it to be different than that...I have to wonder if it's just a matter of faith in a company or product line you happen to like that is coloring that perception, versus a company or product line you don't have much interest in? [/QUOTE]
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