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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6236848" data-attributes="member: 59082">I think you're missing my point here, Mistwell - that I'm not simply talking about "objective facts" (number of products) but "subjective perceptions." My perception isn't "objectively flawed" because it isn't only based upon number of products. That's the point about perception - it is subjective, not objective. You keep on reducing subjectivity to objectivity, but I'm calling that a false reductionism.That is, ah, a matter of perception.You're way off and I think this is where you show your hand, so to speak. You think I'm a pro-Pathfinder, anti-4editionist and have a grudge against WotC. This is simply not true. I played 4e for four years and have never played Pathfinder. I'm looking forward to moving on to 5e. But I do think that Paizo has run their business far better than WotC over the last few years, and they "get it" more than WotC is - that is, get how to run an RPG company, and how to produce a product line that is weighed towards quality over quantity.I've owned every single book on that list and read a bunch of them and there are some good books there, so relax a bit with the false accusations, amigo!That is an easy call because WotC hasn't produced 4e product, as far as I can tell, in the last year and a half - since the summer of 2012!That's like saying "The NFL is glutting the TV market these days compared to MLB" (If you don't follow sports, MLB stands for "major league baseball" - and it isn't baseball season!).  The point being, its a false, even unfair, comparison to line up the hiatus between editions at WotC with the golden age of Pathfinder (and one could argue that if Paizo is churning out more books the last two years its likely partially because WotC has been on a down-turn).But again, its not only about total number of products, but what type of products. My perception of "glut" has to do with the huge amount of hardcovers WotC has produced, about 100 during the seven years of 3e and about 40 during the four years of 4e - that's 140 books in 13 years, or about 11 books per year! Compare that to the approximately 15 Pathfinder hardcovers that have come out in the last five years, or 3 books per year.INow I realize that there are a lot of other books - modules, adventure paths, box sets, softcovers, etc, that would even things out a bit. But again, it is my view that the hardcover format has a kind of gravitas that gives the appearance of glut. A Pathfinder hardcover means something - it is a weighty, substantial tome, whereas many of the 4E hardcovers were rather slim and with a less dense word per page ratio. In other words, Paizo emphasizes quality over quantity where WotC has, for the most part, emphasized quantity over quality. In my humble perception, of course!</blockquote>

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