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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6236951" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>That's just what the phrase "moving the goalposts" means. When someone says "This is X", and after a lengthy series of back and for replies, they suddenly say "Oh X doesn't mean X, it means X except for A, B, G, F, and L!", that's moving the goalposts.</p><p></p><p>You don't get to subtract content. ANY content. None of this has to do with must-buy anything, or campaign stuff, or anything like that. All you've done, by eliminating certain things that Paizo specializes is, is try to re-define glut to exclude Paizo. </p><p></p><p>The discussion was about who was publishing a glut OF MATERIAL. ANY material is the topic, not just what you choose to cherry pick.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>None of which is the topic at hand. We're not talking about balance or option creep or paralysis or any of that. It's like you went to a different thread, saw those things discussed, and just put them on top of this thread and pretended they were the same threads. For the purpose of this debate, none of that has anything to do with the topic. Glut of materials means just glut of materials. Not "glut of materials which meets Jester's personal definition of what should or should not count based on some obscure criteria he just came up with".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, who cares? We're not talking about what is good or bad or any sort of judgement, at least I am not. Someone said 4e had a glut of material relative to Pathfinder. He's wrong. His qualifications, which he also created from thin air, have no relationship to yours (his hangup is the bindings used for the book).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, I get it now. You want to edition war. That's what this is about for you, bashing quality of the 4e books and WOTC. Awesome...find another thread for that please (or don't, as it's against the message board rules). It has nothing to do with this topic. We're talking about who published more material, not what you personally thought of that material and the company that made it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6236951, member: 2525"] That's just what the phrase "moving the goalposts" means. When someone says "This is X", and after a lengthy series of back and for replies, they suddenly say "Oh X doesn't mean X, it means X except for A, B, G, F, and L!", that's moving the goalposts. You don't get to subtract content. ANY content. None of this has to do with must-buy anything, or campaign stuff, or anything like that. All you've done, by eliminating certain things that Paizo specializes is, is try to re-define glut to exclude Paizo. The discussion was about who was publishing a glut OF MATERIAL. ANY material is the topic, not just what you choose to cherry pick. None of which is the topic at hand. We're not talking about balance or option creep or paralysis or any of that. It's like you went to a different thread, saw those things discussed, and just put them on top of this thread and pretended they were the same threads. For the purpose of this debate, none of that has anything to do with the topic. Glut of materials means just glut of materials. Not "glut of materials which meets Jester's personal definition of what should or should not count based on some obscure criteria he just came up with". Again, who cares? We're not talking about what is good or bad or any sort of judgement, at least I am not. Someone said 4e had a glut of material relative to Pathfinder. He's wrong. His qualifications, which he also created from thin air, have no relationship to yours (his hangup is the bindings used for the book). Ah, I get it now. You want to edition war. That's what this is about for you, bashing quality of the 4e books and WOTC. Awesome...find another thread for that please (or don't, as it's against the message board rules). It has nothing to do with this topic. We're talking about who published more material, not what you personally thought of that material and the company that made it. [/QUOTE]
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