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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 3342664" data-attributes="member: 22882">This assumes two things, neither of which is guaranteed or even likely:1. The DM stops the game after each encounter and allows the characters to level (or allows the player of the 1st level character to level while the game continues).&nbsp; I've done this once or twice, but I've *never* seen another DM do it.2. The 1st level character survives a CR 10 encounter.&nbsp; Any CR 10 area effect *will* kill the vast majority of ECL 1 characters.Fireball at that level does a minimum of 10 damage, enough to knock out any wizard or sorcerer, any non-dwarven or gnomish rogue or bard, any elven cleric, druid, monk or ranger, and a member of any of those classes with an average Constitution.&nbsp; Its *average* damage is 35, which is enough to knock out 1st or 2nd level character except the literal max possible one (a Con 20 dwarf or gnome barbarian or warmain who maxes his hp roll at second level and takes Toughness as his 1st level feat, for a total 37 hp) and to instantly kill almost any with a Con of 14 or less (average hp for a d12 hit die character with Con 14?&nbsp; 23.).&nbsp; Effects like Holy Word and Blasphemy, hardly out of the question in a CR 10 encounter, will instantly drop an ECL 1 character.&nbsp; A giant's cleave will instantly drop an ECL 1 character.&nbsp; Heck, the vast majority of attacks from any monster capable of harming an ECL 10 character will kill an ECL 1 character, or at least knock him out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 3342664, member: 22882"] This assumes two things, neither of which is guaranteed or even likely: 1. The DM stops the game after each encounter and allows the characters to level (or allows the player of the 1st level character to level while the game continues). I've done this once or twice, but I've *never* seen another DM do it. 2. The 1st level character survives a CR 10 encounter. Any CR 10 area effect *will* kill the vast majority of ECL 1 characters. Fireball at that level does a minimum of 10 damage, enough to knock out any wizard or sorcerer, any non-dwarven or gnomish rogue or bard, any elven cleric, druid, monk or ranger, and a member of any of those classes with an average Constitution. Its *average* damage is 35, which is enough to knock out 1st or 2nd level character except the literal max possible one (a Con 20 dwarf or gnome barbarian or warmain who maxes his hp roll at second level and takes Toughness as his 1st level feat, for a total 37 hp) and to instantly kill almost any with a Con of 14 or less (average hp for a d12 hit die character with Con 14? 23.). Effects like Holy Word and Blasphemy, hardly out of the question in a CR 10 encounter, will instantly drop an ECL 1 character. A giant's cleave will instantly drop an ECL 1 character. Heck, the vast majority of attacks from any monster capable of harming an ECL 10 character will kill an ECL 1 character, or at least knock him out. [/QUOTE]

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