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<blockquote data-quote="GuardianLurker" data-source="post: 2645836" data-attributes="member: 786">Most influential on the *current* state of the hobby? None of them.Greyhawk, FR, and Eberron don't count for these purposes, as they're the &quot;default&quot; settings, and thus, by definition *are* the current state. Nor do any of those represent really new ground for the industry, IMO.A lot of the others are really good, either mechanically (e.g. Black Company), or setting-wise (e.g. Midnight), but their superior elements don't seem to be influencing, or being incorporated into, other companies' products. Likewise the 3 defaults are in the same boat setting wise.Some (e.g. Dawnforge, Dragonstar) fill in holes left by existing support, but don't seem to be &quot;influential&quot; otherwise.Which ones do I think *should* be influencing the next edition? Black Company - a great freeform spell system, replacing the ELH system. Dragonstar/Dawnforge - a &quot;default&quot; sci-fi/fantasy blend is needed. For that matter, so is a pure space opera sci-fi blend for d20, but that's not out there. Kalamar demonstrates how a setting atlas *should* be written. And Midnight is the definitive &quot;Tolkienesque&quot; setting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GuardianLurker, post: 2645836, member: 786"] Most influential on the *current* state of the hobby? None of them. Greyhawk, FR, and Eberron don't count for these purposes, as they're the "default" settings, and thus, by definition *are* the current state. Nor do any of those represent really new ground for the industry, IMO. A lot of the others are really good, either mechanically (e.g. Black Company), or setting-wise (e.g. Midnight), but their superior elements don't seem to be influencing, or being incorporated into, other companies' products. Likewise the 3 defaults are in the same boat setting wise. Some (e.g. Dawnforge, Dragonstar) fill in holes left by existing support, but don't seem to be "influential" otherwise. Which ones do I think *should* be influencing the next edition? Black Company - a great freeform spell system, replacing the ELH system. Dragonstar/Dawnforge - a "default" sci-fi/fantasy blend is needed. For that matter, so is a pure space opera sci-fi blend for d20, but that's not out there. Kalamar demonstrates how a setting atlas *should* be written. And Midnight is the definitive "Tolkienesque" setting. [/QUOTE]

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