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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 561193" data-attributes="member: 7211">Nail: In this case, the DMG is quite wrong. I would most definitely agree that a -2 Str, +2 Int, +2 Cha is broken. While it is the inverse of the half-orc's stats, the nature of spell-casters is such that they are willing to pay a -2 to any phys ability for a +4 to a mental statistic. Especially in point buy.A spellcaster doesnt care about str. A spellcaster only remotely cares about con and dex, as they are defensive stats. Overall giving any large benefits to mental statistics in exchange for a penalty to str, the offensive statistic is stupid. Its easy to see that you will cultivate few fighter-types from said race, why be a fighter if you are weak but wise and charismatic? Yet every race has fighters.I believe that the phb races were designed without bonuses to mental attrnbutes for a very good reason. Look at gnomes, arguably the most likely to get a bonus to intelligence as they did in 2ed. Yet they got con. I think the races which get bonuses to mental attributes in forgotten realms did so because it is a "high-magic" campaign setting, and they are dubiously balanced.Finally, I dont believe that +4/-4 is balanced at ECL +0. If it is to a mental attribute, well youve already seen my dislike for such bonuses. If it is to a physical attribute, we must merely look to the phb races to see that it wont be balanced. Str is obviously given the most weight, and I cant imagine giving +4 str. As for dex or con, well it seems well covered in both medium and small races with Elves, Dwarves, Halflings, and Gnomes.Hence, your race which gives a -4 to str and a +2 to every mental statistic seems quite broken. Give me one example of a wizard who would want to be an elf, if he can be a weaker yet more intelligent race. Ditto Sorceror. Those classes dont give a darn about str. Or how about psion?The even greater problem may be that this race becomes unattractive to nearly every other class. Any class that needs to hit and do damage with a melee attack is crippled by a -4 str. This leaves the class open to rogues who depend on sneak attack and archers who can try and negate the -4.It just seems unbalanced. In a high magic campaign I think it would be viable, but only with some spell-like ability and at ECL +1.Everything above is just my take.As far as the feats to create half-bloods like Half-Elves, Half-Orcs, Tieflings, Aasimars, Genasi, etc. I think these are interesting ideas, but Im not sure if a feat which gives stat changes is balanced.Technik</blockquote>

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