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<blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 561653" data-attributes="member: 7211">Size ChartYou bring up a good point about the size chart, its something I never really considered. I guess by that basis halflings and gnomes get a +2 str we dont see. However, checking out the chart youre speaking of there is even more going on behind the scenes. I read that a small going to a medium gains 4 str, loses 2 dex, gains 2 con. Reverse engineered means halflings and gnomes lost 4 str, gained 2 dex, lost 2 con. Which means halflings have +2 str, +2 con which cancels out the con and reduces the str to a -2. The dex comes with being small. Then there are gnomes who have a bonus to con, meaning they must have +4 to con, and a +2 str like halflings, though they dont get the dex, which implies a -2 dex.Its interesting to wonder if these races would be balanced as medium size races, but its all just physical traits.btw, earlier I didnt mean to imply that they wouldnt/couldnt work in a given campaign, merely that from a min/max point of view, you can eek out more success as a sorceror, wizard, possibly bard and rogue as that race than the phb ones. I get pretty creative with my characters, but I always try and see possible holes in the gameplay.No complex system&nbsp; is perfect....Technik</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Technik4, post: 561653, member: 7211"] [b]Size Chart[/b] You bring up a good point about the size chart, its something I never really considered. I guess by that basis halflings and gnomes get a +2 str we dont see. However, checking out the chart youre speaking of there is even more going on behind the scenes. I read that a small going to a medium gains 4 str, loses 2 dex, gains 2 con. Reverse engineered means halflings and gnomes lost 4 str, gained 2 dex, lost 2 con. Which means halflings have +2 str, +2 con which cancels out the con and reduces the str to a -2. The dex comes with being small. Then there are gnomes who have a bonus to con, meaning they must have +4 to con, and a +2 str like halflings, though they dont get the dex, which implies a -2 dex. Its interesting to wonder if these races would be balanced as medium size races, but its all just physical traits. btw, earlier I didnt mean to imply that they wouldnt/couldnt work in a given campaign, merely that from a min/max point of view, you can eek out more success as a sorceror, wizard, possibly bard and rogue as that race than the phb ones. I get pretty creative with my characters, but I always try and see possible holes in the gameplay. No complex system is perfect.... Technik [/QUOTE]

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