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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 563000" data-attributes="member: 224">Re: Size Chart...And I appreciate the critique.&nbsp; More ideas and angles are (almost!) always best.I din't include the other stat changes from the MM size change chart, mostly 'cause ....I don't have it with me on vacation!&nbsp; But now that you've provided it:&nbsp;&nbsp; If we assume human is balanced (10's all around), and that a halfling is derived from a small sized human, then we have for ability modifiers:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Str (-4 for size +2 for race=) -2 
Dex (+2 for size=) +2 
Con (-2 for size +2 for race=) +0</li>
</ul>IOW, halfling racial modifeirs are actually:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&nbsp; &nbsp; Str +2, Con +2</li>
</ul>with the modifiers you see in the PH derived from race plus size.&nbsp; (Sorry if I'm repeating you here, Technik4.)Weird, huh?&nbsp; Halflings are strong and doughy, tho'.And for gnomes:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Str (-4 for size +2 for race=) -2 
Dex (+2 for size -2 for race=) +0 
Con (-2 for size +4 for race=) +2</li>
</ul>so their real racial modifiers are: +2 Str, -2 Dex, +4 Con.IOW, gnomes are very tough and rather clumsy for their size.&nbsp; Gee, sounds like dwarves to me.......I think what this really shows is that the size modifiers are too harsh for &quot;balanced&quot; play.&nbsp; That is, a size Small character is only barely playable as a PC race, and then only with mucho extra racial abilities and a fudge on the Ability Adjustment for Size table.&nbsp; And don't even begin a discussion about a size Large PC (+0 ECL) race..................anywayI haven't had PCs with this new race for more than one adventure at a time, so there's no good play-testing.&nbsp; Perhaps I'll reduce it down to: -2 Str, +2 Int, +2 Chr.&nbsp; That seems to take some of the flavor out, though.......FWIW, the race is a Fey race, with favored class: sorcerer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 563000, member: 224"] [b]Re: Size Chart[/b] ...And I appreciate the critique. More ideas and angles are (almost!) always best. I din't include the other stat changes from the MM size change chart, mostly 'cause ....I don't have it with me on vacation! But now that you've provided it: If we assume human is balanced (10's all around), and that a halfling is derived from a small sized human, then we have for ability modifiers: [list]Str (-4 for size +2 for race=) -2 Dex (+2 for size=) +2 Con (-2 for size +2 for race=) +0[/list] IOW, [b]halfling[/b] racial modifeirs are [i]actually[/i]: [list] Str +2, Con +2[/list] with the modifiers you see in the PH derived from race plus size. (Sorry if I'm repeating you here, [b]Technik4[/b].) Weird, huh? Halflings are strong and doughy, tho'. And for [b]gnomes[/b]: [list]Str (-4 for size +2 for race=) -2 Dex (+2 for size -2 for race=) +0 Con (-2 for size +4 for race=) +2[/list] so their [u]real[/u] racial modifiers are: +2 Str, -2 Dex, +4 Con. IOW, [b]gnomes[/b] are very tough and rather clumsy for their size. Gee, sounds like dwarves to me....... I think what this really shows is that the size modifiers are too harsh for "balanced" play. That is, a size Small character is only [i]barely[/i] playable as a PC race, and then only with mucho extra racial abilities and a fudge on the Ability Adjustment for Size table. And don't even [i]begin[/i] a discussion about a size Large PC (+0 ECL) race......... .........[i]anyway[/i] I haven't had PCs with this new race for more than one adventure at a time, so there's no good play-testing. Perhaps I'll reduce it down to: -2 Str, +2 Int, +2 Chr. That seems to take some of the flavor out, though....... FWIW, the race is a Fey race, with favored class: sorcerer. [/QUOTE]

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