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Replacing warlock invocations?
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<blockquote data-quote="Azaar" data-source="post: 1889704" data-attributes="member: 1988"><p>Yeah, they'll have 12 invocations by 20th level. More, if you choose the Extra Invocation feat, though the break-down there is that you could get 2 least, 2 lesser, and 1 greater (assuming you pick up the Extra Invocation feat from 6th level on through 18th), so 17 total then.</p><p></p><p>As far as the new invocations... the invocations are broken down roughly by equivalent spell level, as per the descriptions on pp. 130-136. Least invocations are typically 1st and 2nd level spell equivalents, lesser 3rd and 4th (occasionally 5th), greater 5th and 6th (maybe as high as 7th), and dark is 7th-level equivalent and up through 9th.</p><p></p><p>The breakdown in the chart is every 5 levels, so starting at 6th level you can learn lesser, 11th greater, and 16th dark. The new invocation blurb in the special abilities column signifies that. However, at those levels, you can also begin swapping out an invocation of the grade below your maximum invocation grade. So, at 6th level, you can swap one of your least invocations for another least invocation (for instance, you decide to swap out Bafeful Utterance for See the Unseen), and do so again at 8th and 10th levels. At 11th level, you can continue swapping out least invocations (as above), or you can start swapping one of your lesser invocations for another lesser invocation (dropping The Dead Walk for Flee the Scene, for example), and do so again at 13th and 15th levels, respectively. At 16th level, you can choose between least (as the above example), lesser (as the above example) or greater invocation (drop Chilling Tentacles for Vitriolic Blast, for example), and do so again at 18th and 20th levels, respectively.</p><p></p><p>That, at least, is how I interpret it given what's written. I don't think you can switch out more than one invocation for another at any of those given levels, but I could be wrong about that. It reads to me, though, like it's meant to be just one invocation at a time, not a lesser and a least invocation being swapped at the same time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Azaar, post: 1889704, member: 1988"] Yeah, they'll have 12 invocations by 20th level. More, if you choose the Extra Invocation feat, though the break-down there is that you could get 2 least, 2 lesser, and 1 greater (assuming you pick up the Extra Invocation feat from 6th level on through 18th), so 17 total then. As far as the new invocations... the invocations are broken down roughly by equivalent spell level, as per the descriptions on pp. 130-136. Least invocations are typically 1st and 2nd level spell equivalents, lesser 3rd and 4th (occasionally 5th), greater 5th and 6th (maybe as high as 7th), and dark is 7th-level equivalent and up through 9th. The breakdown in the chart is every 5 levels, so starting at 6th level you can learn lesser, 11th greater, and 16th dark. The new invocation blurb in the special abilities column signifies that. However, at those levels, you can also begin swapping out an invocation of the grade below your maximum invocation grade. So, at 6th level, you can swap one of your least invocations for another least invocation (for instance, you decide to swap out Bafeful Utterance for See the Unseen), and do so again at 8th and 10th levels. At 11th level, you can continue swapping out least invocations (as above), or you can start swapping one of your lesser invocations for another lesser invocation (dropping The Dead Walk for Flee the Scene, for example), and do so again at 13th and 15th levels, respectively. At 16th level, you can choose between least (as the above example), lesser (as the above example) or greater invocation (drop Chilling Tentacles for Vitriolic Blast, for example), and do so again at 18th and 20th levels, respectively. That, at least, is how I interpret it given what's written. I don't think you can switch out more than one invocation for another at any of those given levels, but I could be wrong about that. It reads to me, though, like it's meant to be just one invocation at a time, not a lesser and a least invocation being swapped at the same time. [/QUOTE]
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